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Old 08-07-2008, 01:21 PM   #81 (permalink)

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Roger doesn't put ases in seats, or sell PPVs nearly as well as BJ does (I don't give a shit about Roger's appeal to Latin fans, he still doesn't sell like BJ). Can't wait to see him lose a couple fights in a row, and be forced to go begging for fights from orgs that can't last more then three PPV's before they go broke.
Ladies and Gents, your future King Of The Cage Champion, Roger "I couldn't keep my fucking greedy mouth shut" Huerta.
What are Latin fans? Do they sit around translating old documents written in Latin or simply spectate the translations and cheer.
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:31 PM   #82 (permalink)

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Well, let's see. Somehow a reporter got the info of how much BJ makes, so I guess it is not beyond the realm of possibility to think that Huerta somehow got that info as well.
Its probably more likely Huerta saw the numbers reported by the athletic commissions for BJ's last fight. Fighter's or any athletes salaries are available for anyone who wants to know them. Of course that's without the undisclosed bonuses UFC gives out.
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:37 PM   #83 (permalink)

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Florian is the last fight on his contract, if he losses.. hes pretty much fucked. His egotistical attitude will do him in, and he will have to take what ever he's given. Or go fight elsewhere and not get the same attention.
Pretty sure he's got one fight left on his contract after Florian. A majority of UFC contracts have a clause that says the fighter will not get a title shot near the last 2 fights on their contract b/c of fears of the fighter leaving the org and vacating the title. In other words, if Huerta did beat Florian he's going to have to negotiate another contract, say 6 fights so he'll have 5 fights left on his contract if he does win the title.
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:41 PM   #84 (permalink)

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There should be a fighters union, but I mean Huerta isnt worth that, will see what happens.
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:42 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Wow. I still think fighters need to be paid more, but I don't think Huerta deserves as much or more than BJ Penn. What do you think? I don't think Huerta will be getting his title shot.



Report: Huerta and UFC “far apart” on contract negotiations
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Dave Meltzer, in the latest edition of The Wrestling Observer, says that the UFC and Roger Huerta are “far apart” regarding contract negotiations. Huerta has one fight left on his contract after the upcoming fight with Kenny Florian this weekend. If he doesn’t renegotiate soon then there’s a very real possibility of missing out on a title shot should he win on Saturday. MMA Mania has the exact wording from Meltzer:



It’s really unbelievable to me that Huerta could possibly be asking for more money than B.J. Penn makes. Penn is not only the current lightweight champion but one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world with victories over some of the best in the game. Penn has earned the kind of money that he’s making right now. With the exception of Clay Guida, who is truly a lightweight gatekeeper, who has Huerta beaten to command that type of money? The answer is no one.

Now, should he beat Florian on Saturday then we might be singing a different tune. Florian is a great fighter who is on a roll and improves each and every time out. Right now, in my eyes, he is the number one contender for the title. A win over Florian for Huerta would go a long way in commanding top-dollar from the UFC and cementing his spot at the top of the lightweight division.

Huerta continues to talk about receiving a title shot, but if he’s not close to another deal then there’s no real possibility of him fighting for the title even if he wins. The UFC has made it abundantly clear that if you have one fight left on your contract then you are not fighting for the title even if you are the number one contender. They want fighters who are going to stick around and defend the title, not guys who are going to fight for the title, possibly win it, and then vacate it because they’re looking for more money. Huerta is stuck between a rock and a hard place right now and the only way out is to beat Florian on Saturday and that’s an extremely tall task.

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Completely agree.

Huerta is going to be getting a very rude wake up call as to his abilities and position in the UFC food chain in about 52 hours....

I think that maybe what Huerta is thinking is "I'm good looking, articulate, have a great back story, a potential film and modeling avenue, and have the potential to draw a lot of ladies into the sport and become a high profile marketing and PR face for the company" and that's why he's asking for so much money.

However, he has not come anywhere near earning it by his performaces in the octagon. All he's done is beat up on cans and guys outside of their weight classes. He's not anywhere near the caliber of Penn, Sherk, Franca, Gomi, or even Florian.

If he keeps this up he's going to shoot himself in the foot and end up working the minor leagues for peanuts instead.
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:47 PM   #86 (permalink)

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Pretty sure he's got one fight left on his contract after Florian. A majority of UFC contracts have a clause that says the fighter will not get a title shot near the last 2 fights on their contract b/c of fears of the fighter leaving the org and vacating the title. In other words, if Huerta did beat Florian he's going to have to negotiate another contract, say 6 fights so he'll have 5 fights left on his contract if he does win the title.
Report: Huerta and UFC “far apart” on contract negotiations
Posted by Adam Morgan

Dave Meltzer, in the latest edition of The Wrestling Observer, says that the UFC and Roger Huerta are “far apart” regarding contract negotiations. Huerta has one fight left on his contract after the upcoming fight with Kenny Florian this weekend. If he doesn’t renegotiate soon then there’s a very real possibility of missing out on a title shot should he win on Saturday. MMA Mania has the exact wording from Meltzer:



It’s really unbelievable to me that Huerta could possibly be asking for more money than B.J. Penn makes. Penn is not only the current lightweight champion but one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world with victories over some of the best in the game. Penn has earned the kind of money that he’s making right now. With the exception of Clay Guida, who is truly a lightweight gatekeeper, who has Huerta beaten to command that type of money? The answer is no one.

Now, should he beat Florian on Saturday then we might be singing a different tune. Florian is a great fighter who is on a roll and improves each and every time out. Right now, in my eyes, he is the number one contender for the title. A win over Florian for Huerta would go a long way in commanding top-dollar from the UFC and cementing his spot at the top of the lightweight division.

Huerta continues to talk about receiving a title shot, but if he’s not close to another deal then there’s no real possibility of him fighting for the title even if he wins. The UFC has made it abundantly clear that if you have one fight left on your contract then you are not fighting for the title even if you are the number one contender. They want fighters who are going to stick around and defend the title, not guys who are going to fight for the title, possibly win it, and then vacate it because they’re looking for more money. Huerta is stuck between a rock and a hard place right now and the only way out is to beat Florian on Saturday and that’s an extremely tall task.

Read the bold print, exactly as I posted earlier.
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:50 PM   #87 (permalink)

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Kenny's gonna beat him and Roger might know it. That might be the reason he's pushing for a contract so bad before the fight
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:54 PM   #88 (permalink)

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Sounds like another Brandon Vera situation here. Vera was also demanding tons of money for a new contract, got a new agent and he sat out for a year because of it. So far he's 1-2 since his new deal because all he was mostly hype before signing the deal. He did beat a quality opponent in Mir but everyone knows until recently has he really gotten back to his old self.

Now Huerta is in the same boat and all he has right now is hype. Sure he finished Guida, but that alone is not grounds to demand to be the highest paid LW in the UFC. Sounds like all he's after is money. If so, he should let his contract run out and sign for Affliction or Elite XC.
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:55 PM   #89 (permalink)

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I am not sure if the UFC or any other companies do this but if it were me this is what I would do. I would tell Roger, okay you wanna make more than BJ...deal but here are the terms. You beat Kenny then fight BJ for the title as your last fight on the contract......IF you win this is what you will make...however if you lose this is what you will make (still an increase from right now but NOT more than BJ).

It is a win win really...if he is that good prove it and you will be rewarded for your sucess. Lose and well you are getting paid what you deserve.
Agree 100%. They could even have a stipulation for the amount of ppv's bought before he gets a ppv bonus. Sales no good = no ppv bonus. I don't know why they don't do this kind of thing with more fighters. They could have kept couture and possibly aquired fedor if they were willing to work with fighters in such a way.
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:57 PM   #90 (permalink)

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At first I thought he was crazy too but then I thought a lot of fighters get paid tons of money without being the best. If he is marketable, I say get as much as you can.
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