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Old 04-05-2007, 02:29 PM   #31 (permalink)

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Lampley's a Douche bag
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:29 PM   #32 (permalink)

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Its the party line. Whether he believes it or not boxing is his life blood. If boxing fails he is unemployed. If it goes south he gets a smaller pay check. They know the truth, they are simply trying to extend the train ride as long as possible.

As far as skill, its almost impossible to compare. Boxers and MMA fighters train for completely different styles of fights. Boxers have to block punches which in general are faster and stronger than their mma counterparts. MMA fighters have to block punches, kicks, takedowns, knees, elbows, and submissions so their ability to focus on defending one thing is greatly diminished. Also since the gloves are smaller, more damage is done per mistake which is why you see first round KO's more prevelently than you do in boxing.

Its a stupid comparison. No mma fighter could take a boxing belt in boxing and not boxer could take an mma belt. Its pretty cut and dry.
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:29 PM   #33 (permalink)

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Lampley looks much more artistic and aesthetic when he's getting cuffed by the police for beating his girlfriend and then stalking her. Haters better appreciate.
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:30 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Too bad his girlfriend didn't have better defense skills. Lampley sucks.
Exactly my thoughts when I read that. How credible is a guy who's been arrested for domestic violence?
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:30 PM   #35 (permalink)

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i partially agree that alot of mma guys are not terribly good at defending strikes.
Defense is allot harder. Not only because you have to watch out for the kicks and take downs, but also because the gloves are so small.

Type 1) Randleman KO's CroCop, Couture KD's Sylvia: both examples of getting floored because you lowered your hands to sprawl. Would never happen in boxing.

Type 2) Swick stuns Riggs with a high kick even though Riggs gets his hand between the strike and his head. Would have worked much better with a giant boxing glove... not so much in MMA.

Chicken wing defense is not something you would ever have to do in boxing. And I don't think a lot of boxing defenses like the shoulder roll would work as well with take downs and leg kicks.

But yeah, allot of MMA fighters do lack stuff that does work like head movement in particular.
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:31 PM   #36 (permalink)

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Everyone should be held accountable for the words of his voice. I'm gonna go 300 on Lampley...

This is MMA! *kicks Lampley in chest*
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:31 PM   #37 (permalink)

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Wrong!!!! Boxers can move their heads in a very different way when not defending Knees, elbows and TD's. Boxers SEEM better at avoiding blows b/c they can Cover up (wich does not work well without BOXING gloves. . .see the end of ortiz lidell), they can bend at the waist (not advised unless you want to look like Hendo), and they can keep their hands up around the body and head ALL TEH TIME b/c there are no TD's.

Boxers have a better Defense of punches B/C that is the ONLY THING TO DEFEND!!!!
You clearly have missed my point. Its a thing called body and head movement, which most mma fighters don't use. I've seen the Liddell Ortiz fight, the ref stopped when all Liddell was hitting is elbows, which I'm sure it hurt but very few punches went to the head.

Look at what Randy Couture did against Sylvia, thats a perfect example of what body movement, foot movement, and head movement can do in mma. Not many people do that and so when not people do that, thus leading to a much better chance of a knock out.

Look at guys like Liddell, Cro Cop, Fedor, Barnett, Rampage. They all use foot movement and try to back up and time their strikes and also use it to defend strikes. Thats why their pretty succesful in mma.

You see most mma fighters don't incorporate boxing fundamentals with body movement and head movement. Its not easy because you can gas trying to do that, so you got to be in good cardio shape. But mma is more exciting because fighters aren't trying to use that kinda movement to avoid strikes, and they swing for the fences instead of getting out of the way of punches all the time.
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:32 PM   #38 (permalink)

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he has his head in the clouds...
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:32 PM   #39 (permalink)

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This annoyed me a bit but here it is:

Jim Lampley, HBO's lead boxing announcer, said that if mixed martial arts fights are perceived to be more violent and, thus, more attractive than boxing matches, "it's because these fighters don't have anywhere near the defensive craft and artistry that boxers have."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4689575.html
I don't know. You can get angry at Lampley all you want but what would you expect him to say ? "oh ya the sport I announce for is outdated and the matches are boring so come watch me on Friday Night Fights"

Overall this was a very positive article for MMA and the UFC. Lampley's quote was a footnote that made it sound like he and the rest of the boxing community were feeling threatened.
Which they should be.
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This annoyed me a bit but here it is:

Jim Lampley, HBO's lead boxing announcer, said that if mixed martial arts fights are perceived to be more violent and, thus, more attractive than boxing matches, "it's because these fighters don't have anywhere near the defensive craft and artistry that boxers have."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4689575.html
Dude... who cares what this guy thinks. We all know how complex MMA is. Those are just word from another IGNORANT boxing guy, suffering the giant step of MMA on Boxers' head.

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