[WASNITDS]

Originally Posted by Jason Drake

true ..but you aleady see alot more respect in basketball/football these days than MMA ...

being a form of martial arts the level of respect should be much higher because we are involved in individual wars and cant be subbed in or out or ride the pine half the game so we're actually more like enemies when in there, and martial arts teaches to respect your enemies ..

Oh, I can agree with you there! There should be more respect for fighters than for many other sports, both from everyone around and between the competitors themselves. The 1-on-1 nature of competitive fighting brings up some requirements that other sports don't have.

[Volenik155]

Originally Posted by TeeKay-O

One last attempt. If people STILL respond to the title and not the actual thread, it's not my fault. I am talking about the honor within Martial Arts NOT the techniques. READ CAREFULLY PLEASE!

I was reading a thread yesterday about Joe Rogan creaming his pants about BJJ and not enough love for the stand-up. Someone commented that he was a TKD practitioner and someone else retorted that TKD was for little girls. Many others made similar comments about TKD and other martial arts.

Then today I was rewatching Anderson/Henderson and saw Anderson being so respectful, as always. But I got to thinking... Even if it isn't completely dead, is true martial arts dying in MMA?

I see people disrespect certain Martial Arts in a MMA forum. I see and hear a huge majority of these fighters disrespecting each other and I can't help to think how the corner stone of Martial Arts is fading. Honor. Martial Arts is a means of self defense and one of the first things they teach is NOT to use it to bully people and be respectful of your opponent. Although there are guys like Anderson, Fedor, Franklin, GSP, among others that do respresent this aspect of Martial Arts, they are an overwhelming minority in the sport.

I have loved and studied Martial Arts since I can remember, and seeing these guys that are in a sport where Martial Arts is in the name, I feel they should have a little more honor for themselves, each other, and the sport that has made them who they are.

These views do NOT represent the opinions of Sherdog, Sherdoggers, or the 24 inch rims currently spinning on one of 50 Cent's rides.

Flame on!

Edit: PLEASE go back and read this ONE more time before you post. I had to go through 20 pages of posts and I read MAYBE 5 posts that actually understood what I meant. I am NOT saying that the actual Martial Art is gone, I am referring to the honor and code of Martial Arts.

Your post poses an interesting question. One that I think, as you pointed out, gets lost in the simple appearing title to your post.

Martial Arts are great for discipline. The problem, I see at least, is the marketing of MMA to the general audience. How is it done? With high adrenaline and testosterone. That TKD or any Martial Art does not have place in the chaotic cage.

These arts give discipline which instills honor and respect. The marketing of that, would be hard as hell to sell off to people. I think that many fighters are respectful, you see them often checking on their opponent after a fight or fighters embracing after a war.

The honor is still there for many of the people who are actually partaking in the fights. Yet, I think the general audience loses those site of that. I mean you can't sit in BW's and when fighter embrace without hearing 20 Awesome Bros yell "F*GS."

The idea is still there I think, you just have dig past the crap to see it.

[Dinkin_Flicka]

The honor aspect of Martial Arts defenetly isn't the strongest in MMA. Most of the fighters train with a camp that has multiple fighters to train with in many different elements of martial arts so they can compete. So while they are learning Kickboxing and BJJ quickly so they can absorb what they need to be effective, they're probably not going to deep into the tradition of the art if they delve into it at all. I trained at an MMA school where the instructor did BJJ, JKD, and Kali (kali wasn't really for mma, but it was awesome) and had another guy teach Muy Thai. He did lightly go over tradition, and how the style got to where it is, but it was very little and it mostly about training to compete.

[aaron c. thomas]

no honor has always been rare.

[Jason Drake]

Originally Posted by Temar241

lool very first post completely ignored what you were trying to get at lmao!!!


but yea man i totally agree with you, it pisses me off so much to see the attitudes of these fighters commin into the sport these days. no respect for their opponent, no care for their opponent's well-being after the fight, i hate to see guys like this finding success in mma.

then again if u look at the ufc (for example), all of the champions are actually very respectful guys except BJ, and sometimes rampage... who most of the time is joking around anyway. but in mma in general i really cant stand the attitude some of these guys bring to the sport. its like a bunch of street fighting goons that found something they are good at.

hey hey buddy good post but I resembl the street fighting goons re-mark and have the utmost respect for all my opponants except one and he knows why .....

even on the streets when 2 legit tough guys go at it there is a mutual respect given both ways 90% of the time ...most of the arrogant guys you speak of are the upper middle class tough guy jock bullies that didnt want to do a regular job ...most guys that came up from the streets or neat them have more respect for the sport and it's combatants than any other ..

[Natman2939]

Then why didn't you title the thread "has the honor of martial arts died in mma?"

for fucks sakes. whiny little baby.

[mcnamara]

Originally Posted by TeeKay-O

One last attempt. If people STILL respond to the title and not the actual thread, it's not my fault. I am talking about the honor within Martial Arts NOT the techniques. READ CAREFULLY PLEASE!

I was reading a thread yesterday about Joe Rogan creaming his pants about BJJ and not enough love for the stand-up. Someone commented that he was a TKD practitioner and someone else retorted that TKD was for little girls. Many others made similar comments about TKD and other martial arts.

Then today I was rewatching Anderson/Henderson and saw Anderson being so respectful, as always. But I got to thinking... Even if it isn't completely dead, is true martial arts dying in MMA?

I see people disrespect certain Martial Arts in a MMA forum. I see and hear a huge majority of these fighters disrespecting each other and I can't help to think how the corner stone of Martial Arts is fading. Honor. Martial Arts is a means of self defense and one of the first things they teach is NOT to use it to bully people and be respectful of your opponent. Although there are guys like Anderson, Fedor, Franklin, GSP, among others that do respresent this aspect of Martial Arts, they are an overwhelming minority in the sport.

I have loved and studied Martial Arts since I can remember, and seeing these guys that are in a sport where Martial Arts is in the name, I feel they should have a little more honor for themselves, each other, and the sport that has made them who they are.

These views do NOT represent the opinions of Sherdog, Sherdoggers, or the 24 inch rims currently spinning on one of 50 Cent's rides.

Flame on!

Edit: PLEASE go back and read this ONE more time before you post. I had to go through 20 pages of posts and I read MAYBE 5 posts that actually understood what I meant. I am NOT saying that the actual Martial Art is gone, I am referring to the honor and code of Martial Arts.

Sorry I didn't even read your post.

But you have to realize that ITS NOT ABOUT STYLES ANYMORE. MMA has become a sport itself, you have to be well rounded to be able to compete in a proper way.

[Jason Drake]

Originally Posted by mcnamara

Sorry I didn't even read your post.

But you have to realize that ITS NOT ABOUT STYLES ANYMORE. MMA has become a sport itself, you have to be well rounded to be able to compete in a proper way.

you should have read it before posting that .....lmao

[SDLASF]

Originally Posted by TeeKay-O

One last attempt. If people STILL respond to the title and not the actual thread, it's not my fault. I am talking about the honor within Martial Arts NOT the techniques. READ CAREFULLY PLEASE!

I was reading a thread yesterday about Joe Rogan creaming his pants about BJJ and not enough love for the stand-up. Someone commented that he was a TKD practitioner and someone else retorted that TKD was for little girls. Many others made similar comments about TKD and other martial arts.

Then today I was rewatching Anderson/Henderson and saw Anderson being so respectful, as always. But I got to thinking... Even if it isn't completely dead, is true martial arts dying in MMA?

I see people disrespect certain Martial Arts in a MMA forum. I see and hear a huge majority of these fighters disrespecting each other and I can't help to think how the corner stone of Martial Arts is fading. Honor. Martial Arts is a means of self defense and one of the first things they teach is NOT to use it to bully people and be respectful of your opponent. Although there are guys like Anderson, Fedor, Franklin, GSP, among others that do respresent this aspect of Martial Arts, they are an overwhelming minority in the sport.

I have loved and studied Martial Arts since I can remember, and seeing these guys that are in a sport where Martial Arts is in the name, I feel they should have a little more honor for themselves, each other, and the sport that has made them who they are.

These views do NOT represent the opinions of Sherdog, Sherdoggers, or the 24 inch rims currently spinning on one of 50 Cent's rides.

Flame on!

Edit: PLEASE go back and read this ONE more time before you post. I had to go through 20 pages of posts and I read MAYBE 5 posts that actually understood what I meant. I am NOT saying that the actual Martial Art is gone, I am referring to the honor and code of Martial Arts.

It exists, but only in Japan

[SDLASF]

Originally Posted by mcnamara

Sorry I didn't even read your post.

But you have to realize that ITS NOT ABOUT STYLES ANYMORE. MMA has become a sport itself, you have to be well rounded to be able to compete in a proper way.

You really shouldn't have posted