[patMANpv]

BJ has never been submitted and I don't believe he ever will be...

[Josh Garner]

bj only knows how to submit !

[The Murdelizer]

I am just curios, I though New union was created to avoid the monopoly that is Gracie, and isnt BJ a Gracie BB? How did that happen? Just curious, I am not trying to be a smart ass I just don't know!!

[KORUPT xLOxx]

He hasn't and probably never will be submitted in MMA

[Yojimbo.]

Originally Posted by The Murdelizer

I am just curios, I though New union was created to avoid the monopoly that is Gracie, and isnt BJ a Gracie BB? How did that happen? Just curious, I am not trying to be a smart ass I just don't know!!

No, BJ got his black from Andre Pederneiras. He trained under Ralph and Cesar Gracie up until purple belt, I think.

[The Murdelizer]

Originally Posted by Yojimbo.

No, BJ got his black from Andre Pederneiras. He trained under Ralph and Cesar Gracie up until purple belt, I think.

Danke' that explains it!

[Sam]

No, but Hughes had him trapped in a mean crucifix while trying to submit BJ's face.

[bananaeyes]

Originally Posted by meffid man

c'mon dude you coulda looked this up in fight finder.

maybe he meant in BJJ comp too

[pauljr1121]

Originally Posted by Demogoblin

wats ur point ?

nog barnett wandy fedor genki have never been subed
hendo nick diaz gomi kid yammato tim "lumber jack" slyvia hasve never been koed or tkoed

as far as submission grappling goes who has penn really beaten ... put penn in there with marcelo gracie and see how long he lasts

More likely than not he would lose, but the guy is a mundials champion. Even Garcia is not going to just boat race a mundials champion. He would probably defeat him but it would not be a walkover.

[One Ugly Ear]

Originally Posted by PureBreed

Hasn't been submitted in MMA. But he has to have been subbed at least once in bjj, hes no Rickson..

You're right about that....BJ didn't dodge anyone. Rickson dodged plenty of people....Bas for one.