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Old 07-23-2008, 10:53 PM   #21 (permalink)
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ty TS for your insightful thread. maybe those newbies who think gsp is overrated can stfu now.
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Old 07-23-2008, 10:54 PM   #22 (permalink)

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Not sure of the thread you are speaking of, but anyone would certainly be hard pressed to find a mixed martial artist with better/higher quality wins then GSP.
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Old 07-23-2008, 10:54 PM   #23 (permalink)

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I did not read that thread either it's not worth it. GSP is not overrated.
Yeah, pretty much.
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I don't think GSP is overrated. I love the guy.

BUT

Fedor has way more than five victories over top ten comp.

Aside from youir four,

Mark Hunt was top ten (beat Mirko a year ago)
Heath Herring (second best heavyweight in Pride only to Nogueira at the time)
Kevin Randleman (also had just beat Cro Cop and was top ten at the time)

I'm sure I can come up with more, but there's your seven. I really hate raining on a GSP parade because I think he's awesome. But to say Fedor, who has beaten every good heavyweigt of the past decade, only has four wins over top ten competition is downright insulting.
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good thread!
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Old 07-23-2008, 10:57 PM   #26 (permalink)

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Filho?

WTF are you serious? The guys a monster, but he does NOT have the same quality of wins that GSP does.

Misaki is his only top 10 win.
yeah i thought about that one but in my eyes i c Filho winning the fight. GSP does have way more quality wins.
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Old 07-23-2008, 10:57 PM   #27 (permalink)

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Well said TS. There's no argument against GSP's resume - best of all the top P4P nominees by far.
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Old 07-23-2008, 10:58 PM   #28 (permalink)

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I was reading the "is GSP overrated?" thread and I was amazed.

GSP has 7 victories agaisnt top 5 guys (who were considered top 5 WW when he fought them).

I'll use MMAWeekly rankings, they are not perfect but they are accurate most of the time.

Frank Trigg: Was ranked #2 WW in the world at the time. That fight was promoted as the "who is the second best WW in the world".

Sean Sherk: Was ranked #4 in the world at the time. His only loss was a decision to Matt Hughes.

BJ Penn: Was ranked #3 WW in the world behind Hughes and GSP. He had never lost the WW belt that he took from Hughes. Once again, the fight was promoted as "who's the second best WW in the world".

Matt Hughes (II): Was #1 WW in the world.

Josh Koscheck: Was #5 WW in the world. That was after his victory over Diego.

Matt Hughes (III): Was #3 WW in the world* (Serra was champ and was awarded the #1 spot)

Matt Serra: Was #1 by default (champ).


Can you name one other fighter with 7 victories over top 5 competition?

For the record, Fedor has 4:
Big Nog X 2, Cro Cop, Sylvia.

A. Silva has 3:
Franklin X 2, Hendo

Chuck? No. (other top LHW were in Pride)
Shogun? No. (he has 3: Rampage, Lil Nog, Arona)

Kid? Gomi? Saku? Go ahead, try to find another one


Then come back to Sherdog and tell us how overrated GSP is.
Well put, people always overlook WHEN the fights happened. WHEN GSP fought these guys, they were at the top.
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Good research.
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You seriously think all the top 205s were in Pride during Chucks reign? What about Tito, Randy, Babalu...
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