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Old 08-30-2007, 09:33 PM   #11 (permalink)

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i dont think that fedor can keep up with randy

sure he has aged lately and sure fedor has beaten some big names, but that is because everytime he was in trouble these guys didnt finish him

why didnt randleman throw knee bombs after the randelplex?
why didnt fujita jump on fedor when he was on dream street?

because fedor is so unbeleivably talented?
no, because these guys made mistakes and didnt finish him when they had the chance

this is not to dis-credit fedor's other dominating victories, like that over arona, im just saying that randy wont make a mistake if he gets the chance to fight fedor
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Old 08-30-2007, 09:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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FEDOR'S RECORD

Win Matt Lindland Submission (Armbar) Bodog Fight - Clash of the Nations 4/14/2007 1 2:58
Win Mark Hunt Submission (Kimura) PRIDE - Shockwave 2006 12/31/2006 1 8:16
Win Mark Coleman Submission (Armbar) PRIDE 32 - The Real Deal 10/21/2006 2 1:15
Win Wagner da Conceicao Martins Submission (Punches) PRIDE - Shockwave 2005 12/31/2005 1 0:26
Win Mirko Filipovic Decision (Unaminous) PRIDE - Final Conflict 2005 8/28/2005 3 5:00
Win Tsuyoshi Kohsaka TKO (Doctor Stoppage) PRIDE - Bushido 6 4/3/2005 1 10:00
Win Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE - Shockwave 2004 12/31/2004 3 5:00
NC Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira No Contest - Accidental Cut PRIDE - Final Conflict 2004 8/15/2004 1 3:52
Win Naoya Ogawa Submission (Armbar) PRIDE - Final Conflict 2004 8/15/2004 1 0:54
Win Kevin Randleman Submission (Kimura) PRIDE - Critical Countdown 2004 6/20/2004 1 1:33
Win Mark Coleman Submission (Armbar) PRIDE - Total Elimination 2004 4/25/2004 1 2:11
Win Yuji Nagata TKO (Punches) Inoki Bom-Ba-Ye 2003 - Inoki Festival 12/31/2003 1 1:02
Win Gary Goodridge TKO (Strikes) PRIDE - Total Elimination 2003 8/10/2003 1 1:09
Win Kazuyuki Fujita Submission (Choke) PRIDE 26 - Bad to the Bone 6/8/2003 1 4:17
Win Egidijus Valavicius Submission (Kimura) Rings Lithuania - Bushido Rings 7: Adrenalinas 4/5/2003 N/A
Win Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE 25 - Body Blow 3/16/2003 3 5:00
Win Heath Herring TKO (Cut) PRIDE 23 - Championship Chaos 2 11/24/2002 1 10:00
Win Semmy Schilt Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE 21 - Demolition 6/23/2002 3 5:00
Win Chris Haseman TKO (Lost Points) Rings - World Title Series Grand Final 2/15/2002 1 2:50
Win Lee Hasdell Submission (Guillotine Choke) Rings - World Title Series 5 12/21/2001 1 4:10
Win Ryushi Yanagisawa Decision (Unanimous) Rings - World Title Series 4 10/20/2001 3 5:00
Win Renato Sobral Decision (Unanimous) Rings - 10th Anniversary 8/11/2001 2 5:00
Win Kerry Schall Submission (Armbar) Rings - World Title Series 1 4/20/2001 1 1:47
Win Mihail Apostolov Submission (Rear Naked Choke) Rings Russia - Russia vs Bulgaria 4/6/2001 1 1:03
Loss Tsuyoshi Kohsaka TKO (Cut) Rings - King of Kings 2000 Block B 12/22/2000 1 0:17
Win Ricardo Arona Decision (Unanimous) Rings - King of Kings 2000 Block B 12/22/2000 3 5:00
Win Hiroya Takada KO (Punches) Rings - Battle Genesis Vol. 6 9/5/2000 1 0:12
Win Levon Lagvilava Submission (Choke) Rings - Russia vs Georgia 8/16/2000 1 7:24

COUTURE'S RECORD

Win Gabriel Gonzaga TKO (Strikes) UFC 74 - Respect 8/25/2007 3 1:37
Win Tim Sylvia Decision (Unanimous) UFC 68 - Uprising 3/3/2007 5 5:00
Loss Chuck Liddell KO (Punch) UFC 57 - Liddell vs Couture 3 2/4/2006 2 1:28
Win Mike Van Arsdale Submission (Anaconda Choke) UFC 54 - Boiling Point 8/20/2005 3 0:52
Loss Chuck Liddell KO (Punches) UFC 52 - Couture vs Liddell 2 4/16/2005 1 2:06
Win Vitor Belfort TKO (Doctor Stoppage) UFC 49 - Unfinished Business 8/21/2004 3 5:00
Loss Vitor Belfort TKO (Cut) UFC 46 - Supernatural 1/31/2004 1 0:49
Win Tito Ortiz Decision (Unanimous) UFC 44 - Undisputed 9/26/2003 5 5:00
Win Chuck Liddell TKO (Punches) UFC 43 - Meltdown 6/6/2003 3 2:39
Loss Ricco Rodriguez Submission (Strikes) UFC 39 - The Warriors Return 9/27/2002 5 3:04
Loss Josh Barnett TKO (Strikes) UFC 36 - Worlds Collide 3/22/2002 2 4:35
Win Pedro Rizzo TKO (Strikes) UFC 34 - High Voltage 11/2/2001 3 1:38
Win Pedro Rizzo Decision (Unanimous) UFC 31 - Locked & Loaded 5/4/2001 5 5:00
Loss Valentijn Overeem Submission (Guillotine Choke) Rings - King of Kings 2000 Final 2/24/2001 1 0:56
Win Tsuyoshi Kohsaka Decision (Unanimous) Rings - King of Kings 2000 Final 2/24/2001 2 5:00
Win Kevin Randleman TKO (Strikes) UFC 28 - High Stakes 11/17/2000 3 4:13
Win Ryushi Yanagisawa Decision (Majority) Rings - King of Kings 2000 Block A 10/9/2000 2 5:00
Win Jeremy Horn Decision (Unanimous) Rings - King of Kings 2000 Block A 10/9/2000 3 5:00
Loss Mikhail Illoukhine Submission (Kimura) Rings - Rise 1st 3/20/1999 1 7:43
Loss Enson Inoue Submission (Armbar) VTJ 1998 - Vale Tudo Japan 1998 10/25/1998 1 1:39
Win Maurice Smith Decision UFC Japan - Ultimate Japan 1 12/21/1997 1 21:00
Win Vitor Belfort TKO (Strikes) UFC 15 - Collision Course 10/17/1997 1 8:16
Win Steven Graham TKO (Strikes) UFC 13 - The Ultimate Force 5/30/1997 1 3:13
Win Tony Halme Submission (Rear Choke) UFC 13 - The Ultimate Force 5/30/1997 1 0:56

Props to Sherdog...HMMMMMMMM...who's faced the tougher comp??? FEDOR. Who dominated the mma world for the last 4 years??? FEDOR. Who lost 1 out of 3 fights?? RANDY. Who dropped down in weight after getting dominated by Barnett and Ricco, only to get destroyed by Chuck twice?? RANDY. Who wins this debate?? ME.

Sorry to destroy your dream.

BTW...Hunt would destroy AA, Vera, and Sylvia. So leave them out of the conversation. Thanks for coming out.
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Old 08-30-2007, 09:40 PM   #13 (permalink)

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what a stupid thread.
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Old 08-30-2007, 09:41 PM   #14 (permalink)

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Old 08-30-2007, 09:43 PM   #15 (permalink)
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LOL HILARIOUS. First of all to the idiot who said have a cookie because I found fightfinder, I've been watching both fighters since 2001. The fact I posted their records which state the obvious doesn't mean I "found" something, but I'm glad you had no intelligent response so that was the best you could come up with. We're all impressed.

As for the rest of you who said nothing, just that Fedor beating Randy is "speculation", Randy is always a dangerous underdog (like against Chuck in the 3rd fight and when he took on Ricco and Barnett I'm guessing) you guys have issues. I hope you are all above 18 so you can lay some cash down on the fight when it's made (it will be by the end of the year) and the lines are equal or close to it.

Fighters improve, yes. Tim Sylvia is a b level fighter that couldn't beat anybody in the top 5 of the old PRIDE (which Fedor dominated for years) and would also lose to guys like Kharitonov etc. Gonzaga's claim to fame is ko'ing a cocky CC, something Randleman did too, but last time I checked Gonzaga got pounded out by Werdum and just got dismantled by a 44 year old man. Keep buying into the hype, lay your money down on the Natural, and I will post a thread with a cut and pasted copy of my ticket that states how much money I just made off morons like you.
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Old 08-30-2007, 09:45 PM   #16 (permalink)

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Styles make fights my boy. Randy's been "the matchup" since Fedor beat Crocop: Strong wrestler with good clinch, decent boxing, good sub defense, and ground and pound.
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Old 08-30-2007, 09:45 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Yes, this thread is so stupid. It actually states facts and presents an open and shut case in regards to the upcoming unification fight. The only thing Randy fans can say is "Fedor has been inactive, Randy is God for beating Sylvia and Gonzaga, he's improved, The Natural always wins when hes the underdog (factually incorrrect)...I OWN ALL OF YOU THAT THINK RANDY WOULD WIN OR EVEN STAND A LEGITIMATE CHANCE. Fedor's striking is better, his sub game is better, his chin is better, cardio is equal, Fedor is smarter, and his sambo and hips would neutralize Randy's wrestling. THANKS FOR COMING OUT
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Old 08-30-2007, 09:45 PM   #18 (permalink)

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agreed. I hope this fight happens so people will let go of randy's nutsack. I might be on fedor's, but that's a much better place to be :-D
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Old 08-30-2007, 09:46 PM   #19 (permalink)
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you can't say for sure fedor would win, dumbass didn't you learn anything from this year?

serra, soko, RANDY

randy may be able to utilize elbows and cut fedor that could change the whole fight, or fedor could take him down and break his arm.... WE DON"T KNOW what will happpen. so that's what you should've stated in this thread, instead of listing reasons why fedor will win.
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Styles make fights my boy. Randy's been "the matchup" since Fedor beat Crocop: Strong wrestler with good clinch, decent boxing, good sub defense, and ground and pound.
EVEN if Randy took Fedor down he'd get subbed in under 2 minutes. Please. I outlined in the post above how the styles match up. CC is scared of Fedor.
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