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Old 06-20-2007, 07:52 PM   #21 (permalink)
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now why dont you take the time and give me the percentages on fighters who use elbows but dont bother passing guard and stay inactive????
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Old 06-20-2007, 07:53 PM   #22 (permalink)

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Numbers don't lie...good job.
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Old 06-20-2007, 07:53 PM   #23 (permalink)

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Old 06-20-2007, 07:57 PM   #25 (permalink)

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Someone else did a similar thread and it turned out to be 1.something% of fight were stopped by cuts due to elbow. So the whole "elbow cause cheap wins by cut" theory is just BS. If you look at the stats more fights are prob stopped from cuts by punches and knees. It should be a non-issue but some people just hate all things UFC.

I can at least understand the people who don't like elbows because they want to see more of a ground game. Or others that would like to see knees and stomps added. That I can relate to.

Oh also..to the TS... Franklin vs Tanner was a Dr Stoppage due to cuts from punches. Couture vs Belfort was stopped due to cut from glove. So you can take those off.
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Old 06-20-2007, 08:00 PM   #26 (permalink)

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now why dont you take the time and give me the percentages on fighters who use elbows but dont bother passing guard and stay inactive????
Isn't that a bit of a contradiction? Your stating they are striking with elbows but being inactive.... If they are striking their opponent they aren't inactive.
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Old 06-20-2007, 08:03 PM   #27 (permalink)
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seriously people cut stoppages arent the main issue... its the fact that elbows promote lay n pray.

how often does tito try to pass guard? same with sherk and all the rest of them... elbows promote people to stay inactive in somebodies guard and never try and gain position. its alot harder to get wrist control when someone is only postering and throwing elbows (hell most dont even posture lol).

no wrist control mean less chances of submissions or sweeps. im anti florian style eblows that cause zero damage but cause lacerations. but people who just pin people against the fence and throw the occasional elbow are just doing another form of lay-n-pray.
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Old 06-20-2007, 08:03 PM   #28 (permalink)

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That's some nice detective work there, Lou.

Seriously though, thanks for the info
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Old 06-20-2007, 08:05 PM   #29 (permalink)

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This whole notion of banning of elbows can basically be reduced to UFC vs. PRIDE.

PRIDE didn't allow elbows, so in a lot of peoples minds, that means that elbows are bad since PRIDE is 100% infallible {insert sarcasm}

so just as stated before, it comes down to people just hating the UFC
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Old 06-20-2007, 08:06 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Isn't that a bit of a contradiction? Your stating they are striking with elbows but being inactive.... If they are striking their opponent they aren't inactive.
read what i posted above this post. unless your name is fedor and you can actually deliver blows from a persons guard, i am completely against it... get sidemount for christs sake!

elbows are usually just short glancing blows that dont leave you open to being swept or submitted... BUT these same fighters also never seem to try and better their position because its so easy to control someone and use an OCCASIONAL elbow.

you act like people who use elbows are throwing them in combos like fedor lol... do you also like it when fighters clinch people against the fence but dont deliver any strikes or takedown attempts?
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