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11-21-2008, 01:48 AM
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Black Belt
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada
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I don't understand all this Dana hate. The dude works 24/7 non stop to promote the UFC and expand MMA throughout different territories that don't legalize MMA, and try to change their minds. Yeah he can be strict, and seem like a shark, but you need a guy like that to successfully run a stable business.
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11-21-2008, 01:48 AM
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Brown Belt
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,188
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Originally Posted by Kneeuinthenutz
I have no idea where most of you have gotten your ideas about Dana White and the success of the UFC...
Yes it's true. Dana White talked the Fertitas into buying the UFC for 1 milion dollars...Here is what you're forgetting...
Dana ran the UFC 36 million dollars in debt, and was looking for a buyer. He got someone to go as high as 4 million. They were ready to sell until the last moment Lorenzo decided not to and go with a last ditch effort. That last ditch effort was known as The Ultimate Fighter, which also happens to be something Dana White was totally against....I have no idea where some of you have the idea Dana came up with the idea of TUF because that simply never happened.
So tell me? Why exactly wouldn't the UFC be were it is today without Dana White....
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Be...because......he's......t3h president! And he's cool! And he can bench press 315 on his video blog! And he works his fucking ass off for the company, flying to the fucking philippines to put on a fucking show. Did you know that MMA isn't even sanctioned in the fucking New York? People think this shit is so easy and everyone can do it, but guess what bro, it's not.
Actually, if my potty mouthed little brother had rich friends and no competition, he could have done the exact same and probably more.
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11-21-2008, 01:49 AM
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#63 (permalink)
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Brown Belt
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,034
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Originally Posted by Red Rover
Dana White would be nothing without Frank and Lorenzo's money. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to promote an MMA show.
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Then why have so many failed and only they have succeeded?
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11-21-2008, 01:49 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Parts Unknown
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Originally Posted by Strikes Again
So what exactly do you call the opposite of a WAR wagon?
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The Fail Train
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11-21-2008, 01:49 AM
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Orange Belt
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 308
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Originally Posted by The D'arce Lord
Well shit. Now i'm really scratching my head. The success of the UFC and growth of MMA is directly related to TUF 1 and more specifically the Forrest/Bonnar fight. So if that wasn't even DW then I guess his legacy consists of
"HEY YOU GUYS! I GOT UFC DOLLS!"
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Dana has been the front runner in getting the ufc sanction in many states. Also he was the man who got most of the supporters to invest when the ufc was almost bankrupt
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11-21-2008, 01:50 AM
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Orange Belt
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 308
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theskza
Be...because......he's......t3h president! And he's cool! And he can bench press 315 on his video blog! And he works his fucking ass off for the company, flying to the fucking philippines to put on a fucking show. Did you know that MMA isn't even sanctioned in the fucking New York? People think this shit is so easy and everyone can do it, but guess what bro, it's not.
Actually, if my potty mouthed little brother had rich friends and no competition, he could have done the exact same and probably more.
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11-21-2008, 01:55 AM
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#67 (permalink)
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Purple Belt
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Posts: 1,763
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Originally Posted by CWMMA
UFC wouldn't be where its at today without DW like it or not, could he have done better? Sure. Could he have done worse? Look at all the other MMA orgs going under and you tell me....
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Understand one thing. Dana White is not resposible for the UFC's success. Joe Silva who books the great fights. Forrest vs. Bonnar, TUF reality series, acquisitioning WEC, and the purchase and dismantling of PRIDE and WFA was all the work of Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta. Dana White is just a foul mouthed idiot who has discarded and angered more great fighters than Don King and Bob Arum combined. Dana White takes all the credit, but gives none in return to the great fighters, the great fight cards, and the success of the reality show. Dana White has made more stupid mistakes in the past year than all other sports organizations combined. Let's add up the fighters he couldn't sign, alienated or threw away.
Fighter's angered or alienated - Randy Couture, Jon Fitch and all but one fighter in AKA, Cain Velasquez, Tim Sylvia, Mirko Cro-Cop, Tito Ortiz, Vitor Belfort, Andrei Arlovski, Josh Barnett, Renato Sobral, Frank Shamrock, Phil Baroni, Frank Trigg, Robbie Lawler, Scott Smith, Pedro Rizzo, Kevin Randleman, Bobby Hoffman, Carlos Newton, Murilo Bustamante, and Paul Buentello. And that's only a few fighters that are in or near the top of all of MMA.
Fighter's he can't or won't sign - Fedor Emelienenko or any other fighter with the Red Dragon Team, Alexander Emelienenko, Lil Nog, Antonio Silva, Murilo Rua, Benji Radach, Cung Le, Ben Rothwell, Roy Nelson, KJ Noons, and just about any fighter fighting in DREAM right now.
If Dana is so great and he has such a great organization then whey doesn't he have all of the best fighters?
The truth is, is that Dana White is running the UFC into the ground, and if he continues on the path that he is on right now, I think that the UFC will be in serious trouble within the next 2 years. It's already showing in the WW, MW, and HW division right now. The only stable of great champions and contenders in the UFC right now is the LW and LHW divisions. The other divisions are ruled by other organizations like M-1, K-1, DREAM, and Affliction.
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11-21-2008, 01:56 AM
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White Belt
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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You guys are a bunch of haters. What the heck do you guys know? You sit here and act tough on all these forums. The truth of the matter is that he's actually the one that put MMA into the mainstream, got sanctioning in other states, and a ton of other things. He's orchestrated practically all of it and IMO has been pretty straight up.
You have a right to your opinions. But, he's the one sitting in the office, making this shit happen. Who the hell are you?
Thanks Dana!
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11-21-2008, 01:57 AM
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#69 (permalink)
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Brown Belt
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,188
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Originally Posted by Chi-City
Pride FC
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Damn...
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11-21-2008, 01:59 AM
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#70 (permalink)
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White Belt
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 146
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Originally Posted by jaykool666
Understand one thing. Dana White is not resposible for the UFC's success. Joe Silva who books the great fights. Forrest vs. Bonnar, TUF reality series, acquisitioning WEC, and the purchase and dismantling of PRIDE and WFA was all the work of Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta. Dana White foul mouthed idiot who has discarded and angered more great fighters than Don King and Bob Arum combined. Dana White takes all the credit, but gives none in return to the great fighters, the great fight cards, and the success of the reality show. Dana White has made more stupid mistakes in the past year than all other sports organizations combined. Let's add up the fighters he's couldn't sign, alienated or threw away.
Fighter's angered or alienated - Randy Couture, Jon Fitch, Cain Velasquez, Tim Sylvia, Mirko Cro-Cop, Tito Ortiz, Vitor Belfort, Andrei Arlovski, Josh Barnett, Renato Sobral, Frank Shamrock, Phil Baroni, Frank Trigg, Robbie Lawler, Scott Smith, Pedro Rizzo, Kevin Randleman, Bobby Hoffman, Carlos Newton, Murilo Bustamante, and Paul Buentello. And that's only a few fighters that are in or near the top of all of MMA.
Fighter's he can't sign - Fedor Emelienenko, Alexander Emelienenko, Lil Nog, Antonio Silva, Murilo Rua, Benji Radach, Cung Le, Ben Rothwell, Roy Nelson, KJ Noons, and just about any fighter fighting in DREAM right now.
If Dana is so great and he has such a great organization then whey doesn't he have all of the best fighters?
The truth is, is that Dana White is running the UFC into the ground, and if he continues on the path that he is on right now, I think that the UFC will be in serious trouble within the next 2 years. It's already showing in the WW, MW, and HW division right now. The only stable of great champions and contenders in the UFC right now is the LW and LHW divisions. The other divisions are ruled by other organizations like M-1, K-1, DREAM, and Affliction.
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It's called business. Do you run any fight organizations?
Why doesn't Warner Bros. have Incubus signed to their label instead of Sony? Because it's business! And, if you do your research, Incubus actually sued their label. That's how this shit goes down.
Half of those fighters you mentioned aren't UFC caliber anyways. I'd like to see you try to put together these deals. Do you have any idea what a nightmare it is? It's not simply putting numbers together.
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