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11-21-2008, 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by The D'arce Lord
Fox Deal? - FAILURE!
Fedor Deal? - FAILURE X 2!
HBO Deal? - FAILURE!
ESPN Deal? - FAILURE!
CBS Deal? - FAILURE!
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a network deal made a difference for the ifl, and elitexc
yeah ok
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11-21-2008, 01:10 AM
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Brown Belt
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and oh yeah the fedor shit is all vadims doing.
monte cox himself couldnt work something out fucking morons.
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11-21-2008, 01:17 AM
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god give it a rest. . .he may not be the greatest but like the undertaker he has risen it from the death, face it, the man did the sport a lot and may be a dick now but still puts on great card after great card
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11-21-2008, 01:21 AM
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Brown Belt
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TS: Massive failure, possibly the dumbest sh*t I've ever seen posted on Sherdog.
Get off the hate train.
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11-21-2008, 01:23 AM
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Brown Belt
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Did he even come up with all of those ideas or was it a joined effort within a group of people?
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11-21-2008, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by jodka
You do realize that the "failed" Fedor, HBO, ESPN, and CBS deals are WHY the UFC are so successful? They make CHOICES THAT MAKE THEM MONEY. Most dipshits would have given their souls to be on CBS. (Like Elitexc did). The UFC does not make decisions based on Sherdog, they make decisions based on good, sound business. That is why they didn't make those deals happen and they are better off for it. Do you actually think they would be better off had they made any of those deals happen?
Affliction has an AWESOME stock of fighters. If it's the fighters that matter, why did their first PPV only sell 100k PPVs?
Why did the WFA fail?
Why did Pride fail?
Why is Dream failing?
It's the not the fighters, it's the leaders. Poor leaders (EliteXC) can ruin any Org no matter how good the fighters. Good leaders can even make mediocre fighters into profitable organizations. (See KOTC) Ultimately, you need good fighters, but workers are always in good supply. Great managers? They are VERY hard to find.
The UFC is no different from any other business. Worker bees are a necessity, but easily found and replaced. Great leaders are rare and priceless, thus they are paid more.
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Excellent post. 100% agree.
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11-21-2008, 01:28 AM
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Brown Belt
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Originally Posted by The D'arce Lord
Again. One thing. One thing. DW came up w/ the idea for TUF. Beyond that. He hasn't done shit. I just don't believe that having one good idea (tha actually wasn't working) is grounds to consider the man a "MMA MESSIAH"
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Actually he didn't even come up with the idea. I think one of the Fertitas did, and Dana was against it. I agree with you though, he got lucky and is still lucky. If he wasn't bff or whatever with the owners, he would have been canned for a guy with some reason.
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11-21-2008, 01:31 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
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Originally Posted by Local Plata
how about this: your scenario fucking sucks, you are stupid, and this thread is pointless.
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STFU unless ur trolling. If so continue on good sir!!
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11-21-2008, 01:32 AM
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I have no idea where most of you have gotten your ideas about Dana White and the success of the UFC...
Yes it's true. Dana White talked the Fertitas into buying the UFC for 1 milion dollars...Here is what you're forgetting...
Dana ran the UFC 36 million dollars in debt, and was looking for a buyer. He got someone to go as high as 4 million. They were ready to sell until the last moment Lorenzo decided not to and go with a last ditch effort. That last ditch effort was known as The Ultimate Fighter, which also happens to be something Dana White was totally against....I have no idea where some of you have the idea Dana came up with the idea of TUF because that simply never happened.
So tell me? Why exactly wouldn't the UFC be were it is today without Dana White....
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11-21-2008, 01:33 AM
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Brown Belt
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Originally Posted by theskza
Actually he didn't even come up with the idea. I think one of the Fertitas did, and Dana was against it. I agree with you though, he got lucky and is still lucky. If he wasn't bff or whatever with the owners, he would have been canned for a guy with some reason.
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Why can everyone readily accept the fact that Dana didn't like TUF when it pleases them, but then at the same time blame him for every other one of UFC's "failures."
I just don't get why people act this way.
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