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11-21-2008, 09:57 AM
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Blue Belt
Join Date: Jun 2007
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wasn't the problem with all the tv deals with cbs, hbo, fox etc...because the networks wanted to have control over all the production???
i'm not 100% about that, but i think i read that somewhere...if that is the case i'd tell the networks to fuck themselves too...
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11-21-2008, 10:20 AM
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#132 (permalink)
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Green Belt
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Windsor, Ontario
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Dana has connection with tons of ppl so yes he would be able to bring elite to a new level, not to the level of the ufc but better than the guys hwo ran it into the ground im sure.
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11-21-2008, 10:29 AM
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#133 (permalink)
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Banned
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,034
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shut up dana hater
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11-21-2008, 10:37 AM
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#134 (permalink)
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Brown Belt
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,034
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Originally Posted by Vdub28
wasn't the problem with all the tv deals with cbs, hbo, fox etc...because the networks wanted to have control over all the production???
i'm not 100% about that, but i think i read that somewhere...if that is the case i'd tell the networks to fuck themselves too...
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The control thing was part of it, but that wasn't the only problem.
Elite had a deal with CBS, IFL had a deal with My Network. Neither of those deals made money.
If the deal isn't going to pay you a lot of money, and they want to change your product, what's the point?
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11-21-2008, 10:37 AM
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#135 (permalink)
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Blue Belt
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 848
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Originally Posted by CWMMA
UFC wouldn't be where its at today without DW like it or not, could he have done better? Sure. Could he have done worse? Look at all the other MMA orgs going under and you tell me....
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You must be one of the paid posters for the UFC!!
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/mem...s-dana-879165/
Just kidding. You are partly right- Dana and the UFC did get really lucky, especially with the Bonnar/Griffin fight, but sometimes in business, thats just how it goes. However, that was just the beginning, and to be able to keep the UFC growing so fast for 5 years, there is some actual business acumen involved, be it by Dana or the Fretittas.
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11-21-2008, 10:47 AM
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#136 (permalink)
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Green Belt
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,420
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Dana didn't even want to do TUF let alone people making out that it was his idea LOL
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11-21-2008, 10:58 AM
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#137 (permalink)
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Every Which Way But Loose
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,998
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Originally Posted by The D'arce Lord
Again. One thing. One thing. DW came up w/ the idea for TUF. Beyond that. He hasn't done shit. I just don't believe that having one good idea (tha actually wasn't working) is grounds to consider the man a "MMA MESSIAH"
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Dana White didn't come up with the idea of TUF. Whe the idea was mentioned he was against it all the way to the final when it struck gold. Like the fans who didn't watch it he was sceptical. After the finale he praised it like everyone else. Don't give the guy credit for someone else's idea that he didn't even like or stand by untill it actually worked. Before TUF the UFC was a struggling company. Nothing White did helped it. He's just the face of the organisation, a spokesperson, not a guy who actually comes up with any profitable ideas.
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11-21-2008, 11:00 AM
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#138 (permalink)
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Every Which Way But Loose
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,998
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Originally Posted by dudebro
shut up dana hater
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With the way Mr. White treats fans and fighters it's impossible not to hate him. What's your excuse?
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11-21-2008, 11:02 AM
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#139 (permalink)
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Brown Belt
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 4,140
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I used to love Dana when he was turning that mess around. I always spoke well of him.
But his ego is completely out of control and he needs to go.
He goes sue crazy against Couture for not completing his contract, but then fires guys at will when they have 2 fights left on their contracts. He gives NO respect and openly bad mouths any fighter who doesn’t fight for his org no matter how obvious their skills. He has already cost the UFC what could’ve been an incredible HWT division by losing 3 top 10 fighters in Sylvia, Werdum, and AA. Not to mention his big mouth burned the bridge with Fedor's management and deprived us all of many HWT matchups that we all wanted to see. Now Fitch, another top 10 fighter, is getting cut because he wouldn't agree to a LIFETIME giveaway on his likeness, and Kos, also a top 10 fighter, may be on the way out too because Dana is going power crazy and banning entire teams all at once.
That’s 4, to maybe 5 top ten fighters that he has lost or let go due to his ego and insane contract demands; and another fighter, the best HWT in the world, who’s management walked away after Dana gave them no respect.
What the fuck?....
At this rate, 4 to 6 years from now when another promotion, whether it be Affliction or someone else, has as many good fighters as the UFC, and has equal or better PPV numbers than the UFC, we will all be talking about how Dana's ego ended up costing the UFC the empire.
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11-21-2008, 11:03 AM
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#140 (permalink)
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Banned
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 4,164
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im pissin on this thread right now, dana white bashers are pussy homos who wish they were him. props to dana, keep up the good work pal!
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