Dana White - Myth built off of one strike of major LUCK!

[Summoner10]

Originally Posted by The D'arce Lord

OH! OH! And the thing is. TUF actually (the first season as a whole) TANKED IN THE RATINGS! And was in danger of not being picked up again! It wasn't until the Forrest/Bonnar fight that people took notice!!

DW was basically a tag along on that wild ride of a fight!

Thats actually not true. TUF was a big success about halfway through the season and even on the TUF1 finale they talk of the news of Spike signing on for future seasons, which was signed a week or so BEFORE the finale. This all before the main events of forrest/bonner and shamrock/franklin. Nice try.

[Gono>UFC]

Originally Posted by jaykool666

He's lost more than just Big Tim, AA, Tito, and Werdum. He's also lost Fitch, Babalu, Velasquez, Nick Diaz, and Scott Smith.

Now I know that Scott Smith is not that great of a fighter, but he's a damn good gatekeeper. So is Babalu. And I don't care what anybody says, I think GSP vs. Nick Diaz would be an entertaining fight to see. I know that Diaz would probably lose, but it would still be a good fight to watch.

He didn't lose those guys, other than maybe Cain. Every one of them was out of the UFC for a good reason.

[jaykool666]

I just read the article and if you see what Sherdog put about Dana you can see why I don't like Dana.

[Chi-City]

Originally Posted by jaykool666

Maybe the other fighters that I've mentioned are not known to the casual fan here in the U.S., but around the world they are respected and revered. The last thing I heard about contract negotiations with Fedor is that Fedor wanted 1 million for himself, but would bring his price down considerably if Dana signed his Red Dragon Team or whatever they are called, but I could be wrong, but if it's true then I don't think that sounds too unreasonable. I'm not flaming Dana's past performace as President, just the past year. When I started thinking about all the fighters that have been lost over the years and the great match-ups that could've been made, it just angers me, to see what the UFC could actually do, but they won't, and Dana is the main person responsible for a lot of what's going on. Especially with Fedor, Tito, Jon Fitch, and all the others that I've mentioned.

Yea but it's one million for one fight they the next fight another million and who from the red devil team is good besides Fedor and Alex. Alex can't get medical clerance so he can't fight in the US so that would have been a waste. As for the others yea it sucks not to have them all but they don't pull numbers. As much as I hate it I understand. Like I said until somthing comes back and bites them on the ass they are running the best MMA org in the world.

[CCH]

Originally Posted by THE DEVIL

fuck yes that dude needs to take a good long hard look in the mirror and realize what a poor business tactic, ego driven, camera drunk, downward spiral, **** rag he has become.

1) he needs to get off the fucking podium so much nobody wants to see him we want to see the great fighters that are in ufc if he keeps going down this road he's going to become vince mcmann a parody of a human being for the sole purpose of selling tickets, and guess what tickets and ppv buys are already selling so stop putting ur bald head on tv dana

2) he needs to stop fucking with fighters, i never thought he was that big a dick but fucking around fitch and all the aka guys, fitch has done nothing but humble and loyal to ufc. even if they worked shit out. That's some shameful shit

3) he needs to fire mike goldberg and hire bas ruten, sorry this has nothing to do with this forum question but mike goldberg's commentary makes me want to die. plus bas and rogan would make a funny fucking pair

This must be why the UFC is failing so miserably.

[jaykool666]

Anyways now I'm happy to see that Jon Fitch and Cain Velasquez are back in the UFC. Now I know that article spoke of Kos and Christian Wellisch, but I can care less about those fighters. Now I can go to bed happy.

WAR JON FITCH!!!!!!!!!

[Hamhawk]

Originally Posted by The D'arce Lord

Here is a hypothetical situation:

1) Elite NEVER folded and still had the same stable of fighters.
2) UFC has it's current stable of fighters.
3) Elite has comparable outlets that UFC does.
4) Dana white has been FIRED from the UFC and is now the NEW PRESIDENT OF Elite XC.

Does anybody believe that Dana White "The man who saved MMA" would be able to trump the UFC (using his current methods of doing business)?

This is a round about "What came first the chicken or the egg" type of question.

See, me personally. I think that THE FIGHTERS is what makes the UFC so great. I think that, at this point, if the UFC got another President that the company would either get better or stay the same (as far as interest and viewership is concerned) as long as they kept the fighters happy.

Dana White would not be able to get lucky TWICE!

I mean, LETS BE HONEST, how long can one man coast on one achievement.? TUF was/is great (dependin on who you ask). And the Forrest/Bonnar fight really did save the company. But beyond that, what has DW done since then? What significant deal has he made?

Fox Deal? - FAILURE!
Fedor Deal? - FAILURE X 2!
HBO Deal? - FAILURE!
ESPN Deal? - FAILURE!
CBS Deal? - FAILURE!
Fighter Dolls? - Success <--But really. Who over the age of 10 really gives a flyin' fuck? Any grown man w/ those dolls should promptly have his ass beaten stupid by the nearest middle schooler.
UFC Video Game - Ehh...Not really anything new as their have already been UFC games. This one might be kinda decent. But I can't really call tihs a DW achievement!
UFC IN MSG? - A DW pipe dream. This won't happen unless somebody not named DW is doing the deal!

The man can't deal his way into anything where he doesn't already have the upper hand. I will be more than suprised if he EVER successfully brokers a deal for the UFC to hit the streets of NYC. It'll never happen w/ him at the helm.

I use to be such a huge DW fan until I realized that damn near every deal the man attempts to touch turns to shit and it usually turns to shit b/c he's always acting like and impetuous tempermental adolescent lil girl about business.

your a moron stfu....do you really think if as you say "every deal dana attempts to touch turns to shit" that they'd allow him to run the ufc?Obviously his good deals far out weigh his bad deals.They have far and away the biggest and best stable of fighters.I don't see how you can be so negative about him.Did he fuck your wife or something?...lolol

[Chi-City]

Originally Posted by jaykool666

I just read the article and if you see what Sherdog put about Dana you can see why I don't like Dana.

Well Sherdog has been anti-UFC for a while but the UFC is the major MMA org so they've toned it down a little.

[jaykool666]

Originally Posted by Chi-City

Yea but it's one million for one fight they the next fight another million and who from the red devil team is good besides Fedor and Alex. Alex can't get medical clerance so he can't fight in the US so that would have been a waste. As for the others yea it sucks not to have them all but they don't pull numbers. As much as I hate it I understand. Like I said until somthing comes back and bites them on the ass they are running the best MMA org in the world.

Red Devil Team thank you. You know what it doesn't matter if they are any good or not. Let them fight in the UFC and see if they are worth anything. I mean come on Dana has signed fighters like Jorge Gurgel, Pete Sell, Pete Spratt, Tommy Speer, and many others that aren't worth anything, but he game them a shot. Why not give the fighters of the Red Devil Team a shot too.

[CCH]

Originally Posted by BenitoJayJay

UFC would be way further if they had a president with some sort of education. Dana can't negogiate. He never made a deal. All he's doing is using the UFC brand name and he's doing it bad.

But that's not (only) b/c he's too stupid. He doesen't give a ratass about mma. The Fertittas do neither, like they don't giva a ratsass about gambling. They're all just in for the money.

We can't all be as smart as you. What companies have you been the president of that went from being purchased for $1 million to being a multimillion dollar market dominator?