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11-21-2008, 02:37 AM
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#91 (permalink)
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UFC would be way further if they had a president with some sort of education. Dana can't negogiate. He never made a deal. All he's doing is using the UFC brand name and he's doing it bad.
But that's not (only) b/c he's too stupid. He doesen't give a ratass about mma. The Fertittas do neither, like they don't giva a ratsass about gambling. They're all just in for the money.
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11-21-2008, 02:40 AM
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#92 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by jaykool666
When you see fighters like Tito Ortiz, Josh Barnett, and Bobby Hoffman say that they will never fight for the UFC as long as Dana White is the president of the company, it's pretty easy to see who gets the blame.
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Plus he killed the f'n hw division. Which one is next? Do really want him to go on like that?
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11-21-2008, 02:41 AM
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Orange Belt
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Originally Posted by jaykool666
Yes he signed Brock, Rampage, Cro-Cop, Wandy, Carwin, Machida, Shogun, Alves, and he got Randy back. I'll give credit there, but it just seems to me that here lately Dana has been making more mistakes than good acquisitions. He's lost more great fighters in the last year than what he's signed.
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As I said before if you look at the Fitch thing you will see that dana's word is not law.
If the Fertittas feel he's made a mistake they will correct it.
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11-21-2008, 02:45 AM
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#94 (permalink)
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Green Belt
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Anyone could have done the job Dana has, most likely better.
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11-21-2008, 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Chi-City
The John Fitch thing I can't argue, AA and Werdum where under performing but i would have gave them a shot. But those other fighters are not supercharging ticket sales. If you ask any casual fan who Werdum is they say that guy that got upper cutted out of his boots not the BJJ master that we the hadrcore fans know. I know it sucks but the hard core fan brings in penuts compared to the casual fan. Also Fedor is posion for any org right now because he is so free lance and has such a high price that he'll kill many orgs untill he stays with one org. Think about it Fedor comes to your org for one fight smashes your champ then rolls out now you can't book him because he didn't pull alot of PPV numbers and your in debt.
Wait gotta put on my flame suit.
OK I'm good
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Maybe the other fighters that I've mentioned are not known to the casual fan here in the U.S., but around the world they are respected and revered. The last thing I heard about contract negotiations with Fedor is that Fedor wanted 1 million for himself, but would bring his price down considerably if Dana signed his Red Dragon Team or whatever they are called, but I could be wrong, but if it's true then I don't think that sounds too unreasonable. I'm not flaming Dana's past performace as President, just the past year. When I started thinking about all the fighters that have been lost over the years and the great match-ups that could've been made, it just angers me, to see what the UFC could actually do, but they won't, and Dana is the main person responsible for a lot of what's going on. Especially with Fedor, Tito, Jon Fitch, and all the others that I've mentioned.
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11-21-2008, 02:47 AM
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#96 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Chi-City
As I said before if you look at the Fitch thing you will see that dana's word is not law.
If the Fertittas feel he's made a mistake they will correct it.
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I hope the Fertittas do correct it. If they don't then they are on my list of people to flame. LOL
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11-21-2008, 02:48 AM
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#97 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by jaykool666
Yes he signed Brock, Rampage, Cro-Cop, Wandy, Carwin, Machida, Shogun, Alves, and he got Randy back. I'll give credit there, but it just seems to me that here lately Dana has been making more mistakes than good acquisitions. He's lost more great fighters in the last year than what he's signed.
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They come and go in spurts.
I mean he got Wandy, Shogun, Anderson Silva, Dan Henderson, Big Nog, Crocop, Rampage, Machida, Sokoudjou, Brock, and so forth.
He lost Big Tim, Arlovski, Tito, Werdum,
However I mean it made sense not to match Affliction's 750K for Tim Sylvia. Tito asks for a lot, and hasn't won lately, plus he can be a distraction. Arlovski got big bucks. Werdum, I question dropping him, even if he didn't look in great shape for Dos Santos.
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11-21-2008, 02:56 AM
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#98 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by jaykool666
I hope the Fertittas do correct it. If they don't then they are on my list of people to flame. LOL
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They have Fitch is back in the UFC (front page on sherdog news) Dana is not some loose cannon that the Fertittas don't have a leash on. Like I've said before Dana is a front man the Fertittas have the final say and so far nothing has come back to bite them on the ass. So really dana has made one mistake a the Fertittas corrected it fast.
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11-21-2008, 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Lavalamp
They come and go in spurts.
I mean he got Wandy, Shogun, Anderson Silva, Dan Henderson, Big Nog, Crocop, Rampage, Machida, Sokoudjou, Brock, and so forth.
He lost Big Tim, Arlovski, Tito, Werdum,
However I mean it made sense not to match Affliction's 750K for Tim Sylvia. Tito asks for a lot, and hasn't won lately, plus he can be a distraction. Arlovski got big bucks. Werdum, I question dropping him, even if he didn't look in great shape for Dos Santos.
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He's lost more than just Big Tim, AA, Tito, and Werdum. He's also lost Fitch, Babalu, Velasquez, Nick Diaz, and Scott Smith.
Now I know that Scott Smith is not that great of a fighter, but he's a damn good gatekeeper. So is Babalu. And I don't care what anybody says, I think GSP vs. Nick Diaz would be an entertaining fight to see. I know that Diaz would probably lose, but it would still be a good fight to watch.
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11-21-2008, 02:59 AM
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#100 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chi-City
They have Fitch is back in the UFC (front page on sherdog news) Dana is not some loose cannon that the Fertittas don't have a leash on. Like I've said before Dana is a front man the Fertittas have the final say and so far nothing has come back to bite them on the ass. So really dana has made one mistake a the Fertittas corrected it fast.
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Oh, well see the Fertittas are cool. LOL, I didn't see the article. Well now I have, but see Dana almost made another huge mistake. Thanks for telling me about the article.
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