Dana White - Myth built off of one strike of major LUCK!

The D'arce Lord · 11-21-2008, 12:00 AM

Here is a hypothetical situation:

1) Elite NEVER folded and still had the same stable of fighters.
2) UFC has it's current stable of fighters.
3) Elite has comparable outlets that UFC does.
4) Dana white has been FIRED from the UFC and is now the NEW PRESIDENT OF Elite XC.

Does anybody believe that Dana White "The man who saved MMA" would be able to trump the UFC (using his current methods of doing business)?

This is a round about "What came first the chicken or the egg" type of question.

See, me personally. I think that THE FIGHTERS is what makes the UFC so great. I think that, at this point, if the UFC got another President that the company would either get better or stay the same (as far as interest and viewership is concerned) as long as they kept the fighters happy.

Dana White would not be able to get lucky TWICE!

I mean, LETS BE HONEST, how long can one man coast on one achievement.? TUF was/is great (dependin on who you ask). And the Forrest/Bonnar fight really did save the company. But beyond that, what has DW done since then? What significant deal has he made?

Fox Deal? - FAILURE!
Fedor Deal? - FAILURE X 2!
HBO Deal? - FAILURE!
ESPN Deal? - FAILURE!
CBS Deal? - FAILURE!
Fighter Dolls? - Success <--But really. Who over the age of 10 really gives a flyin' fuck? Any grown man w/ those dolls should promptly have his ass beaten stupid by the nearest middle schooler.
UFC Video Game - Ehh...Not really anything new as their have already been UFC games. This one might be kinda decent. But I can't really call tihs a DW achievement!
UFC IN MSG? - A DW pipe dream. This won't happen unless somebody not named DW is doing the deal!

The man can't deal his way into anything where he doesn't already have the upper hand. I will be more than suprised if he EVER successfully brokers a deal for the UFC to hit the streets of NYC. It'll never happen w/ him at the helm.

I use to be such a huge DW fan until I realized that damn near every deal the man attempts to touch turns to shit and it usually turns to shit b/c he's always acting like and impetuous tempermental adolescent lil girl about business.

Wolfgang666 · 11-21-2008, 12:05 AM

Dana White is a POS who has used the UFC name and station's money and taken credit for everything. May someone sell him laced steriods.

CWMMA · 11-21-2008, 12:10 AM

UFC wouldn't be where its at today without DW like it or not, could he have done better? Sure. Could he have done worse? Look at all the other MMA orgs going under and you tell me....

The D'arce Lord · 11-21-2008, 12:11 AM

OH! OH! And the thing is. TUF actually (the first season as a whole) TANKED IN THE RATINGS! And was in danger of not being picked up again! It wasn't until the Forrest/Bonnar fight that people took notice!!

DW was basically a tag along on that wild ride of a fight!

johnsq316 · 11-21-2008, 12:12 AM

And if you took away Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen and Shaq and Kobe, Phil Jackson would never have won all those championships.

If you took away Derek Jeter and Mariano Rivera, Joe Torre is a horrible manager.

If you take away anyone's signature accomplishments you can say they haven't accomplished anything.

The D'arce Lord · 11-21-2008, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CWMMA

UFC wouldn't be where its at today without DW like it or not, could he have done better? Sure. Could he have done worse? Look at all the other MMA orgs going under and you tell me....

WHAT DID HE DO!?

Other orgs are going under b/c they have SHIT fighters and are trying to make up for the fact that they have shit fighters by doing superfilous (sp?) shit that nobody cares about. Like concerts btwn fights and a fuckin dance troupe taking up 15minutes before broadcast.

TUF saved the UFC. If you want to be entirely correct! FORREST AND STEPHAN SAVED THE UFC! U can give credit to DW for the idea. BUT HIS IDEA WAS FAILING BADLY BEFORE FORREST AND STEPHAN TRIED TO MURDER EACH OTHER IN THAT CAGE!

method115 · 11-21-2008, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The D'arce Lord

OH! OH! And the thing is. TUF actually (the first season as a whole) TANKED IN THE RATINGS! And was in danger of not being picked up again! It wasn't until the Forrest/Bonnar fight that people took notice!!

DW was basically a tag along on that wild ride of a fight!

Well Dana White got the Ferrtittas to invest there money into the UFC. That alone shows that Dana White helped MMA get to where it is. Forget the other countless things. Just cause the guy doesn't do some things you like doesn't mean you have to discredit everything good he's ever done.

Local Plata · 11-21-2008, 12:13 AM

how about this: your scenario fucking sucks, you are stupid, and this thread is pointless.

chaps · 11-21-2008, 12:14 AM

Dana owns 10% of Zuffa and he is very close to the Fertittas. Get used to Dana White, he's here to stay.

Love it or hate it.

The D'arce Lord · 11-21-2008, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by johnsq316

And if you took away Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen and Shaq and Kobe, Phil Jackson would never have won all those championships.

If you took away Derek Jeter and Mariano Rivera, Joe Torre is a horrible manager.

If you take away anyone's signature accomplishments you can say they haven't accomplished anything.

Again. One thing. One thing. DW came up w/ the idea for TUF. Beyond that. He hasn't done shit. I just don't believe that having one good idea (tha actually wasn't working) is grounds to consider the man a "MMA MESSIAH"