[LMW87]

Lesnar is seen as a serious threat with major potential in the HW division, while people call Choi a can and insult Fedor for fighting him. Let's analyze Lesnar vs Choi:


Size

Lesnar's size is seen as one of his biggest advantages, as he is 6'2 and around 280.

Choi is 7'2 and around 360 pounds.


Advantage: Choi



Speed/Agility

Definitely concede this to Brock. He's much quicker.

Advantage: Lesnar




Other forms of fighting experience


Lesnar:
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Wrestling: NCAA Div. 1 champ

Striking: None.


Choi:
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Wrestling: One of the top ssirum (Korean Wrestling) competitors in South Korea

Striking: Great record in K-1 including a win over the current undisputed king of K-1, Semmy Schilt. Only losses are to Bonjasky and Jerome Le Banner (who are the cream of the crop) by decision, and 1 knockout and the hands of Mighty Mo.

Advantage: If not a small edge to Choi, then even. Lesnar is very strong in one area, but Choi is pretty strong in 2, which evens out to a more impressive all-around skill set.



MMA Experience:

Lesnar: 1 win over a can (Kim), and one loss to a good HW in Mir.

Choi: 1 win over a can (Ologun) and one loss to a much better HW, Fedor.

Choi was [u]just as impressive[/b] in his loss to Fedor as Lesnar was in his loss to Mir, while Choi's opponent (Fedor) was much, much more difficult than Lesnar's (Mir).


Given all these points, WHY is Choi considered a can when Lesnar is considered a potential future champ?

Because Fedor was fighting Choi, and people needed another reason to hate on Fedor. Is there any other way to objectively prove that Lesnar should be considered so much better than Choi?

[LozanoJ1985]

i would have no problem with it, seeing how they are new to the sport

[WCLegend90]

great post

[juggo]

HMC can't make 265, so he's not a HW, by most standards.

And Lesnar is definitely the more skilled athlete. Success HMC has in wrestling/kickboxing/mma comes as a direct result of his freakish size (acromegaly syndrome).

[thesharktank]

well ... choi isnt even a heavyweight. secondly he has a tumor and cant get sanctioned in the states. thirdly lesnar is thrice as athletic, you cant just arbitrarily rate each category as the same.

[blackthorne]

It's already been spelled out for the most part.

HMC won't find fights, and it's not like his size is the result of his double helix paying dividends for his health.

Another factor, besides the fact that Brock can fight at HW no matter what org he fights for, is that Lesnar is fully dedicated to MMA. Other than Sable, and deciding which lame tattoo to get next, he's got no other distractions. He's serious about MMA and it showed against Mir.

HMC on the other hand has quite a successful K-1 career ahead of him, and there's nothing but upside for him there. He hasn't retired from K-1, and that will undoubtedly be his primary focus.

Yes Choi is a dangerous fight for anyone. But it's a dangerous fight at the sake of exaggerated spectacle. Some consider Brock the same, but if he didn't have a pro wrestling career, people would look at him as a dangerous HW with a ton of raw talent. HMC will always be a freakshow unforuntately. It's not his fault, granted.

[juggo]

Originally Posted by blackthorne

HMC will always be a freakshow unforuntately. It's not his fault, granted.

Well, look at it this way, if it wasn't for his freakshow-like size, no one would know who he is. He'd probably be working a regular job.

[blackthorne]

Originally Posted by juggo

Well, look at it this way, if it wasn't for his freakshow-like size, no one would know who he is. He'd probably be working a regular job.

Pretty much. The guy is skilled for his size, but does that really say much? I suspect the people that go ga-ga over his K-1 record don't actually watch his fights, but since the results (which ARE impressive to be sure) somewhat speak for themselves, few people ever question such fast food wisdom.

[Calogero831]

it dont matter if their freakishly huge. do you think once you get to a certain point being big can hurt you like being too fat(butterbean) or too bulky(bob sapp) or to tall(choi).

genki sudo v butterbean?

[wolverinejoe800]

Originally Posted by juggo

Well, look at it this way, if it wasn't for his freakshow-like size, no one would know who he is. He'd probably be working a regular job.

dumb comment


if he was smaller maybe he would've been 3 times fast and more athletic...


he is unusually athletic for his size.