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Old 01-05-2009, 11:42 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I disagree, look at Rampage. He is clearly good at MMA but...

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you have a point...but what clinch u talkin about?

thai or greco??
clinch in general, even watching boxing a lot of fighters throw flurries then clinch up and the ref breaks it. Thats why i feel boxers don't adapt well to MMA cause they can't fire off their punches then clinch up cause as soon as they clinch with the wrestler they get taken down, thats why most boxers are very tentative in MMA they don't have that fail safe where the can clinch up if they miss with a flurry.

So for arguments sake we'll say greco clinch but the thai clinch also deal with legs trips.
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Old 01-05-2009, 11:46 PM   #14 (permalink)

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Those that are great at the clinch have a significant advantage.
Not really. Quick fighters like GSP, Rashad, and Machida can avoid being clinched and strike from outside if they want. There is no most important aspect really.
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One could argue rampage comes from a clinching background though because he's a wrestler, remember those slams he used to do when he clinched up with people??
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Not really. Quick fighters like GSP, Rashad, and Machida can avoid being clinched and strike from outside if they want. There is no most important aspect really.
yeah but said fighters are good in the clinch, machida took tito down with a clinch IIRC and gsp and rashad are good wrestlers
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the clinch is not near the most important aspect of the game. you need to close in to even clinch and without decent striking and chin you can't even clinch up.
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the clinch is not near the most important aspect of the game. you need to close in to even clinch and without decent striking and chin you can't even clinch up.
pretty much all fights go to the clinch though, and whoever is stronger in the clinch decides where the fight goes. Even the greatest of strikers in boxing clinch from time to time and in MMA where you can get taken down or dirty boxed the moment you clinch with someone who is better in the clinch than you, you are in a lot of trouble.
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hell yeah, rich franklin's nose was a testament to that after the first silva fight.
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