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01-06-2009, 01:12 AM
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Green Belt
Join Date: Apr 2008
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Haha, compared to Frank, Fedor and Tito are model citizens.
But, still, they could really hype pitting the two undefeated MW champs against each other.
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01-06-2009, 01:25 AM
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Brown Belt
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 4,833
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Frank can be a contender still, he's not like ken, he hasn't been getting his ass kicked horribly for the last 5 years.
Hughes is honestly a wild card, let's see what happens with his training and how he looks against the supposed Serra fight sometime this year.
Randy i think is done.
Shogun, not even close to being done, he just had a bad string of injuries.
Liddell, needs to alter his training/style
Wandy, needs to go to a boxing coach
Ortiz - depends when he fights, how he looks, etc. hard to make an assessment now in my opinion.
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01-06-2009, 02:01 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,437
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I think Couture could win the 205 title, given the chance
I think Wanderlei could contend for the title at 185.
Nobody else on that list will ever contend for a meaningful title ever again
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01-06-2009, 02:15 AM
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Blue Belt
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 943
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Chuck I believe can still regain the title, he will always have that punchers chance, he was the first in over 100 fights to put Horn down, the first to KO Randy Couture, and a lot of high light reel knockouts. He hasn't done well lately, but I think it's due to bad luck.
Randy is one of those weird ones, he jumps weight classes. He may be a bit older, but he still looks strong enough, quick enough, and determined enough to hang, he's like the fox against the hound, his intelligence helps him. His last fight it didn't work, but he can still give a fight.
Hughes is past his prime, and the competition is so stacked i don't see him having a chance.
Ortiz. He has shown he is capable of beating Rashad who is the champ. I think Rampage would destroy him, but I could picture him beating T. Silva, Jardine, Vera, he could very well be in title contention.
Shamrock is done, I don't see him being able to much against many great 185ers, Leben, Bisping, Silva, Maia, Hendo, Belfort, Lindland, Le would all destroy him. I really don't see him in title contention.
Wandy is great, he could be in title contention, but he needs to evolve his game. He is still young and able to learn new stuff. He has power as we have seen, but get away from brawling and go to boxing, and focus on bjj he could be right back in there.
Shogun. I don't understand why this guy is so questioned right now, his first fight in a new organization, injured, his wedding is 2 weeks before the fight, he starts strong, then gasses, and doesn't do so well. Gomi lost 2 fights in a row years back then dominated Pride's LW division for years, Shogun lost 1 fight, and the guy that beat him went on to be champ. Give the guy a break, he had a bad fight, he can return and be the champ.
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01-06-2009, 02:17 AM
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Orange Belt
Join Date: May 2007
Location: williston north dakota
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matt hughes is the only person ever to use he is out of his prime at 32 fuck that
silva is 33
liddell was 37 champ
couture 43 champ
only champ under 30 is st pierre
hughes was just the best of the old school
Outside of that Tito Ortiz beat Rashad Evans if not for a grab Tito Ortiz beat griffin
both fairly recently how is he not valid
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01-06-2009, 02:23 AM
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Purple Belt
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: NY
Posts: 1,988
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Hughes and Shamrock are both done for the most part, I think.
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01-06-2009, 02:43 AM
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Blue Belt
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Kyra Gracie's guard
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Hughes heart isnt in it anymore, i cant see him fighting again after Serra.
Silva at MW could be interesting, especially if what ive heard about him getting a boxing coach is true
Shogun will be back, too young and talented.
Tito COULD do alright, just depends how much of his struggles were actually his back.
Randy... maybe father time finally caught up, like it does with us all
Shamrock just doesnt seem to care too much, but he always was talented
Chuck can still beat people on his day, he just looks like his luck ran out
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01-06-2009, 02:50 AM
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Green Belt
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,277
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dantelohan
Hughes heart isnt in it anymore, i cant see him fighting again after Serra.
Silva at MW could be interesting, especially if what ive heard about him getting a boxing coach is true
Shogun will be back, too young and talented.
Tito COULD do alright, just depends how much of his struggles were actually his back.
Randy... maybe father time finally caught up, like it does with us all
Shamrock just doesnt seem to care too much, but he always was talented
Chuck can still beat people on his day, he just looks like his luck ran out
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Hughes has zero chance. HE has a good grappling game and that's it. and not even the best at that. In this day in age you have to be good at both, or at least a threat ar both. All the other guys have a chance
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01-06-2009, 03:10 AM
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Brown Belt
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 3,362
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Believe it or not, i think randy can retire as the hw champ. If he fights Nogueira I'm almost sure he would beat him. Then, if Mir beats Lesnar, we would see a Mir vs Couture fight. I think Couture would take him to the 4th round and finish him there.
Shogun, I'm not a Shogun fan and i said before that im pretty sure he used steroids back in pride. But he is young and talented, you cant take that away from him. He will be back..
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01-06-2009, 03:24 AM
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