[NoDaK KiD]

Originally Posted by Goober Taylor

Might wanna add Monson and Vera to Tim's wins.

Although he is no longer fighting (and not on your list)...Gan McGee was ranked around 8 or 9 by MMA Weekly at the time Tim defended his title against him.

Thank you for that.

A definite oversight on my part.

[Arkanjal]

its great to see that the rest of the top 7 have equal, or more, top wins than Fedor and more recently...but of course he's still number one.

[Love Glove]

Originally Posted by NoDaK KiD

I've compiled a list of the top 20 Heavyweights and in parentheses next to their records included how they fared against the other HWs in the top 20.

I thought it was interesting that the only undefeated HWs against their top 20 contemporaries are Fedor (3-0) and Antonio Silva (1-0).

Also worth noting is that the two Heavyweights Fedor has beaten from this list are also the two Heavyweights who have had the largest number of top Heavyweight fights (Nogueira with 9 fights, going 6-3 and Cro-Cop with 8 fights, going 4-4. The only other Heavyweight to have 8 fights was Ricco, who went 3-5.

For those of you who have not followed MMA very long, this list may contain some information that is surprising, like Arlovski only being 2-4 against top fighters or that Gonzaga's win over Cro-Cop was basically his only significantly noteworthy MMA victory.)


1. Fedor Emelianenko 27-1 (3-0)

Wins: Nogueira x2, Cro-Cop
Losses: None

2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira 31-4 (6-3)

Wins: Barnett, Sylvia, Werdum, Rodriguez, Kharitonov, Cro-Cop
Losses: Fedor x2, Barnett

3. Randy Couture 16-8 (4-2)

Wins: Sylvia, Gonzaga, Rizzo x2
Losses: Barnett, Rodriguez

4. Josh Barnett 20-5 (3-5)

Wins: Nogueira, A. Emelianenko, Couture
Losses: Cro-Cop x3, Nogueira, Rizzo

5. Tim Sylvia 24-4 (3-3)

Wins: Arlovski x2, Rodriguez,
Losses: Arlovski, Couture, Nogueira

6. Andrei Arlovski 11-5 (2-4)

Wins: Sylvia, Werdum
Losses: Sylvia x2, Rizzo, Rodriguez

7. Fabricio Werdum 10-3 (4-3)

Wins: Gonzaga x2, A. Emelianenko, Overeem
Losses: Kharitonov, Arlovski, Nogueira

8. Cheick Kongo 11-3 (1-0)

Wins: Cro-Cop
Losses: None

9. Gabriel Gonzaga 8-3 (1-3)

Wins: Cro-Cop
Losses: Werdum x2, Couture

10. Mirko Cro-Cop 22-6 (4-4)

Wins: Barnett x3, A. Emelianenko
Losses: Gonzaga, Kongo, Nogueira, Fedor

11. Ben Rothwell 29-5 (1-1)

Wins: Rodriguez
Losses: Sylvia

12. Aleksander Emelianenko 10-3 (1-3)

Wins: Kharitonov
Losses: Werdum, Barnett, Cro-Cop

13. Sergei Kharitonov 15-3 (3-2)

Wins: Werdum, Overeem, Rizzo
Losses: Overeem, Nogueira

14. Antonio Silva 10-1 (1-0)

Wins: Rodriguez
Losses: None

15. Brandon Vera 8-1 (1-1)

Wins: Mir
Losses: Sylvia

16. Pedro Rizzo 16-7 (4-3)

Wins: Rodriguez, Barnett, Monson, Arlovski
Losses: Couture x2, Kharitonov

17. Jeff Monson 24-7 (0-3)

Wins: None
Losses: Sylvia, Rodriguez, Rizzo

18. Ricco Rodriguez 27-8 (3-5)

Wins: Couture, Arlovski, Monson
Losses: Silva, Sylvia, Rothwell, Rizzo, Nogueira

19. Alistair Overeem 26-11 (1-2)

Wins: Kharitonov
Losses: Kharitonov, Werdum

20. Frank Mir 11-3 (1-1)

Wins: Sylvia
Losses: Vera


Thoughts, Corrections, Concerns?

Pretty good list, and great effort, thanks.

Its absurd to have Mirko below Kongo and Gonzaga though. Regardless of what anybody says, he has achieved far more than those guys and one loss each to them shouldn't be enough for them to be above him.

They haven't beaten anybody else anywhere near his status, so imo, he should still be above them due to a FAR, FAR, FAR better body of work throughout his career.

[Croatia_K1]

Originally Posted by primo7

even though he isnt in the top 20 i think that there should have been some mention of bob sapp

lol..you've got to be fucking kidding..

[lottanerves]

Originally Posted by NoDaK KiD

8. Cheick Kongo 11-3 (1-0)

Wins: Cro-Cop
Losses: None

Kongo lost to Carmelo Marrero

[OShea]

Originally Posted by NoDaK KiD

I've compiled a list of the top 20 Heavyweights and in parentheses next to their records included how they fared against the other HWs in the top 20.

I thought it was interesting that the only undefeated HWs against their top 20 contemporaries are Fedor (3-0) and Antonio Silva (1-0).

Also worth noting is that the two Heavyweights Fedor has beaten from this list are also the two Heavyweights who have had the largest number of top Heavyweight fights (Nogueira with 9 fights, going 6-3 and Cro-Cop with 8 fights, going 4-4. The only other Heavyweight to have 8 fights was Ricco, who went 3-5.

For those of you who have not followed MMA very long, this list may contain some information that is surprising, like Arlovski only being 2-4 against top fighters or that Gonzaga's win over Cro-Cop was basically his only significantly noteworthy MMA victory.)




8. Cheick Kongo 11-3 (1-0)



Thoughts, Corrections, Concerns?

What am i not seeing. Kongo got owned by Merrero who was in turn owned by Gabriel "no gas" Gonzaga

[NoDaK KiD]

Originally Posted by Temujin

*Mir

Thank you for that.

I assumed I would make a mistake or two and thank you for pointing it out.

[NoDaK KiD]

Originally Posted by OShea

What am i not seeing. Kongo got owned by Merrero who was in turn owned by Gabriel "no gas" Gonzaga

Kongo is 4-1 in the UFC with his last victory being over top 10 Cro-Cop.

His loss against Carmello hurts him, but his other victories have made up for it.

It was a close loss due to lack of takedown defense. Being that he's now teamed up with Rampage, I imagine he is fixing this discrepancy.

[EastonBJJ]

Originally Posted by OShea

What am i not seeing. Kongo got owned by Merrero who was in turn owned by Gabriel "no gas" Gonzaga

The list is for records against top 20 HWs currently. Marrero is not sniffing the top 20.



TS. Nice job, don't worry about going back and putting guys that are ranked at the time (like Gan), keep it simple and with guys relevant to todays mma.


Bob Sapp???????? He brokeded my nose.

Bob Sapp???????? You know what, he called out Fedor on HDNet tonight, so if he ever fights him and manages to win, we can make him an honorary HW and consider him the best of all time. Just for the Hell of it, lol.

[NoDaK KiD]

Originally Posted by Love Glove

Pretty good list, and great effort, thanks.

Its absurd to have Mirko below Kongo and Gonzaga though. Regardless of what anybody says, he has achieved far more than those guys and one loss each to them shouldn't be enough for them to be above him.

They haven't beaten anybody else anywhere near his status, so imo, he should still be above them due to a FAR, FAR, FAR better body of work throughout his career.

I see your point man, I really do. If I was ranking HW careers, I would put him in the top 5. Its just that he's lost his last 2 fights against fighters who were unranked at the time and that really hurts his ranking in my eyes.

I hope what Cro-Cop says is true and that he'll rack up a win or two in DREAM before returning to the UFC.

I'd love to see him against Kharitonov in DREAM for his second fight there.