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12-21-2009, 08:42 AM
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Black Belt
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It's hidiculous to worry about this.
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12-21-2009, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by sqrl33
Aren't most soccer commentators Spanish speaking? Brazil is a Portuguese state. I know in spanish R's are R's. In Portuguese R's are H's 99% of the time.
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I believe this is true only with Brazilian Portuguese. And yes, there is a difference. It's been discussed at length here a few times.
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12-21-2009, 08:45 AM
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Brown Belt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peytonlucy
It's hidiculous to worry about this.
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LOL. shouldnt the double r in worry have the h sound also?
im not worrying about this though i was just curious as to if there was a reason or it just boiled down to simple preference on pronounciation
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12-21-2009, 08:47 AM
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I don't watch soccer but my guess is that they have probably been pronouncing names like that in soccer for so long that it just stuck and is now ignored but the UFC was founded by The Gracies (Rorion, I think) so they would have made it a point to pronounce their own and other similar names correctly
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12-21-2009, 08:52 AM
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I've always wondered about hickardo arona.
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12-21-2009, 08:52 AM
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Blue Belt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ucunc156
so this is pretty pointless but i was just curious:
in mma, almost all brazilians seem to pronounce there names begining with R with an H sound. examples being rolles, royce, rorian, (basically every gracie), renato, etc. even on the strikeforce card im pretty sure jacare's name was pronounced honaldo.
now in soccer, these names beginning with R all have the hard sound. former/current brazilian soccer players such as ronaldo, ronaldinho, and rivaldo. i cant imagine every soccer commentator i have ever heard mispronouncing some of the best players in the most post popular game in the world time after time.
anyone have any idea on the different pronounciations, whats right and wrong?
thanks
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The R is pronounced as an English H. So Ronaldo is Honaldo. I know a Roberta from Brazil, her name is pronounced Hoberta (ironically fitting IMO but you'd have to know her).
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12-21-2009, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Jdow187
do you like huey lewis and the news? Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercial and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far much more bitter, cynical sense of humour.
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12-21-2009, 08:58 AM
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White Belt
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It's not just names either. The monetary unit in Brazil is the "Real".
When used plurally it is pronounced "hay-eyes."
Strangely when used in the singular I seem to remember it being pronounced with an "R" sound.
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12-21-2009, 08:58 AM
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Cereal-Killer Jitsu
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in Brazil ballers drive Holls Hoyces.
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12-21-2009, 09:00 AM
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Blue Belt
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In Portuguese, the R in the beginning of the world has the common H sound. So does RR in the middle of the world.
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