Brandon Veras Words " That Ref Sucks"

[Jack Cough]

Originally Posted by ChongLi

Because simply being mounted does not mean you win.

But you yourself said "When someone like him mounts you, you are not going to escape, period", so going any further is totally futile and dangerous I might add. No need to take any risks like that is there? Thats all we need is for someone to get hurt on TV.

Also does shriping=curling up? An attempt to shrimp would be an attempt to escape even if it didn't look look great and was unsuccessful but curling up would be an attempt to take a nap and that is inappropriate. Just curious because sometimes they look the same.

[southsideSTi]

The Truth = 100's of excuses as to why you didnt win your last 2 fights

Im so sick of Brandon Vera and his hyped up fans

[TheEvilDead]

Originally Posted by Cooking With Dom Deluise

The gif says it all. Dan may have botched some shit before but this call was fine in my opinion.

[Jack Cough]

Originally Posted by TheEvilDead

The gif says it all. Dan may have botched some shit before but this call was fine in my opinion.

If you slow that gif down enough it could last for twenty minutes. There is no way on earth that should go on for twenty minutes without him escaping.

[ChongLi]

Originally Posted by Jack Cough

But you yourself said "When someone like him mounts you, you are not going to escape, period", so going any further is totally futile and dangerous I might add. No need to take any risks like that is there? Thats all we need is for someone to get hurt on TV.

Also does shriping=curling up? An attempt to shrimp would be an attempt to escape even if it didn't look look great and was unsuccessful but curling up would be an attempt to take a nap and that is inappropriate. Just curious because sometimes they look the same.

Now you are just trying to argue for argument's sake. Ok I'll play. It was an MMA match that Vera and Werdum entered. The terminal states of an MMA match are: KO, submission (verbal/tapout/referee stoppage), unable to continue due to injury, disqualification, TKO (referee stoppage). Being mounted is not a terminal state in the MMA rule book.
MMA is a sport, sports are governed by rules. If you want to see blood and guts flying perhaps vale tudo is what you should watch.

[jeffonyc]

As the biggest Vera fan at one time, I have to allow this stoppage,

count them, there's around 22-23 unaswered punched from the mount.

This is gonna serve notice to fighter that you MUST try to get out, sweep, or throw a punch for lets say every 20 your opponent throws

Sure looking back you can say it was premature, but at a moments notice its hard for the ref to really know if the fighter is hurt

Vera needs to fight like he did vs Mir

[gooth4]

If Vera would have not been out matched and put away the fight, then he wouldnt be in this predicament and whinning like a little girl.

[Jack Cough]

Originally Posted by ChongLi

Now you are just trying to argue for argument's sake. Ok I'll play. It was an MMA match that Vera and Werdum entered. The terminal states of an MMA match are: KO, submission (verbal/tapout/referee stoppage), unable to continue due to injury, disqualification, TKO (referee stoppage). Being mounted is not a terminal state in the MMA rule book.
MMA is a sport, sports are governed by rules. If you want to see blood and guts flying perhaps vale tudo is what you should watch.

I'm aware of the rules, and while blood is a reality in this sport seeing a fighters exposed guts really isn't so settle down with the implications. All the above you posted is just a smokescreen when the real issuue is a bad ref stoppage.

Implying that I want to see blood and guts is a terrific way to make it look like I have bad intentions and that takes value away from what I am saying. Bad logic.

[ChongLi]

Originally Posted by Jack Cough

I'm aware of the rules, and while blood is a reality in this sport seeing a fighters exposed guts really isn't so settle down with the implications. All the above you posted is just a smokescreen when the real issuue is a bad ref stoppage.

Implying that I want to see blood and guts is a terrific way to make it look like I have bad intentions and that takes value away from what I am saying. Bad logic.

I am curious to know when do you think it is a good stoppage.

Majority of the complaints people have about this stoppage is due to the same referee's non-action in the Kimbo/Thompson fight. If we all agree that fight should have been stopped, then we should be happy that this time around, the ref made the correct call. Two wrongs don't make a right, referees make mistakes, but to repeat the same mistake is simply not acceptable.
The MMA rule book says if the referee determines that a fighter is not intelligently defending himself, then he can call the fight. Vera was mounted and did nothing to try to escape mount. He was pounded on for 13 sec straight with 20 more sec left in the round by Werdum from a dominant position. Therefore the referee's decision to call the fight for Werdum is warranted.

[whatevascleva]

Originally Posted by Blank Creep

More than 20 unanswered strike is enough -

HE LOST - DON'T BUHLEE DUH HYPE.

James had over a minute of unanswered elbows and Dan didn't stop it


he's the worst ref ATM