BJ's exaggerated boxing skills

[Shogun Samurai]

Originally Posted by Loiosh

GSP has outstruck everyone he has ever fought, including BJ, with the exception of Serra in their first fight.

Nice try, though.

are you being serious?

[Corey Roberts]

Originally Posted by Matt Hilton

Mayhem Miller - 6'1
Karo Parysian - 5'10
Travis Galbraith - 6'0
Thomas Denny - 5'10
Jay Hieron - 6'0
Josh Koscheck - 5'10
John Fitch - 6'0

Yeah those guys are all shorter then G.S.P. (who is 5'10)

What a shitty post.

I honestly think GSP has problems striking with the smaller guys, so it should work to penn's advantage. Serra is smaller than him and knocked him the fuck out, and in the second fight he didn't want no part of the stand up.

[shaveit]

Bj fucked gsp up on his fight in their first bout

[Ocelot187]

Originally Posted by MegaMegaRoboCop

This is so awesome and made me laugh so hard. Thank you.

[jimmythefinger]

BJ has the better boxing, GSP is a better kickboxer. If GSP uses his kicks and speed I think he will really shut down BJ's striking; If he stands in the pocket I think he's in trouble. He hasnt shown the head movement of BJ and doesnt have the same kinda power. But, overall he's faster and stronger and if he utilizes his kicks, in addition to his hands, I think BJ is in for a long night.

[canadian cross]

Originally Posted by tdalto

Well, for that to happen you would have to be a world class Boxing trainer, and you would have to had worked with both guys extensively.

OH SHIT... Freddie Roach has done just that, and then he has shared his opinion!!! BJ IS THE WINNER

You're making a mountain out of grain of sand man. What do you want to hear? That if GSP worked with Roach then Roach would say GSP is the best? Thats nuthuggery to the max, and petty as all hell to boot. Some people might agree with you if you made that claim, some would disagree, but it's definitely not a crazy statement to say that BJs hands are the best. Bas Rutten knows more about MMA than just about anyone and he said the same things so i don't think that you have an argument when you try to discount Freddie.

Oh and you might be nut hugging GSP a little (or a lot) but i'm nut hugging Roach a little as well. I know him, I've trained with him, and his gym is the best i've ever been in. So... whenever i hear something from him i know that it's something he believes and i know that it's relevant because he's one of the smartest in the game

No, Freddie Roach said BJ is the better pure boxer, what Im saying is that you can have more effective hands in MMA without being the better pure boxer.

[Renzo Gracie NH]

BJ is a great MMA boxer, you make some decent points but BJ's boxing is definitely above average and IMO better than GSP's.

[Matt Hilton]

Originally Posted by madrobbo

I honestly think GSP has problems striking with the smaller guys, so it should work to penn's advantage. Serra is smaller than him and knocked him the fuck out, and in the second fight he didn't want no part of the stand up.

BJ is the same height as Matt Hughes. They are both only an inch shorter then GSP.

[tdalto]

Originally Posted by canadian cross

No, Freddie Roach said BJ is the better pure boxer, what Im saying is that you can have more effective hands in MMA without being the better pure boxer.

third time i've posted this. READ IT

Originally Posted by tdalto

2nd, the best boxer comment was pre-Arlovski transformation. He now calls Arlovski the best boxer and Penn the best striker

"PRO MMA: Besides Andrei, who has the best boxing skills in MMA that you have seen?

ROACH: So far, Penn is the best striker. Real nice guy, I wish him luck in his fight. I know he has a tough one coming up with St. Pierre. That is one that I will watch because he is a good friend of mine. I don’t really have time to watch TV. I work twelve hours a day in my gym because I have a lot of fighters. Penn is a great striker. Andrei is the best boxer so far. As far as striking wise…Penn, he is talented."
PRO MMA EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Freddie Roach |

[Hanz_Blitz]

I noticed earlier but was too lazy to post, the TS says Freddie Roach isn't an MMA coach he's a boxing coach then goes on to attempt to discredit Roach saying he didn't even know you could knee then says so how would Roach know how good BJ's striking is???

Am I the only one who see's that Roach is clearly only noticing boxing in a fighters arsenal when he says striking and only noticing BJ's BOXING!!!!!!!!! When Freddie Roach says you're a good striker he means BOXER so his point is completely valid and BJ's boxing is WAY better than St. Pierre or anyone at 155's!

Freddie Roach >>>>>>>>>>> Over TS or anyone else on this site in terms of boxing knowledge!!!!