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01-07-2009, 10:53 AM
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01-07-2009, 10:56 AM
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To be honest I never understood this.
I'm a big Penn fan, but it seems most people rank him in P4P based on his potential. But when you lose that many fights, you shouldn't be considered top of the heap when there are other guys who have very few losses and have fought equal or more difficult levels of competition.
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01-07-2009, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr EOS
who cares about p4p rankings?
i think the only reason people care about p4p now is because there is no more pride vs ufc to debate over hwen it comes to divisional rankings.
the true champions like gsp and anderson are worried about who their facing next in the ufc. p4p rankings only mean something to guys like barnett and fedor who fight in farce organizations.
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Define 'farce'
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01-07-2009, 11:09 AM
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as far as you new mma fans go just consider BJ god and anderson silva as one like mosses and thats it look it up the guy sets his mind to it its done I think after he beats the crap out of GSP and florian he will leave the UFC for good and fight FEDOR and win WAR BJ PENN
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01-07-2009, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 808Caliber
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Definitely.
He's the absolute master of the LW division, if he moves up and earns a draw at WW, he moves up. If he wins, he's probably #1.
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01-07-2009, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mmacoyot
Can anyone tell me why BJ Penn is considered to be ranked higher than GSP in the p4p rankings? And why Anderson Silva thinks BJ could be the best p4p fighter in the world? Like what would make him think that? Trust me, I know a lot about this sport but I never got that.
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Which p4p ranking list are you referring to? Sherdog and Yahoo both have GSP ahead of Penn.
I'm a huge Penn fan, but this is a really close call. I like how he fought GSP in their first matchup minus his conditioning and poor preparation. I really wish Penn had the dedication that GSP has. I also wish he would train wrestling as much as GSP has. Then he would be unstoppable.
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01-07-2009, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mmacoyot
Can anyone tell me why BJ Penn is considered to be ranked higher than GSP in the p4p rankings? And why Anderson Silva thinks BJ could be the best p4p fighter in the world? Like what would make him think that? Trust me, I know a lot about this sport but I never got that.
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Because the dude has fought from lightweight all the way to heavyweight, and has done pretty fucking good in every class. That's the definition of P4P - defeating guys, or at least making a strong showing, much bigger than you through skill and sheer determination. BJ and Fedor are two of the only guys who should even be mentioned in P4P discussion, because nobody else you guys talk about has done a GOD damn thing to deserve it.
P4P fighters =
Sakuraba
Royce
BJ
Fedor
When GSP moves cuts weight down to 155 and beats some ass, then moves up to 185 and does well, then to 205 and over and does respectably, then he's a great P4P fighter. Until then, he's just a great WW, nothing more. Same goes for ALL the guys who get talked about as P4P fighters, until they prove something by fighting guys well out of their natural weight class, with success, they should not be mentioned.
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01-07-2009, 11:29 AM
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Based on their records, which is the only way you can determine P4P, there is no way BJ is above GSP.
The fight will be awesome though.
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01-07-2009, 11:30 AM
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I love it how many haters heard what Anderson said. They probably wanted to discount his words as well. BJ is respected more amongst fighters than the average fan. Most fighters put him in #1, but what do they know lol.
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01-07-2009, 11:34 AM
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Brown Belt
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Originally Posted by DJWillis
I love it how many haters heard what Anderson said. They probably wanted to discount his words as well. BJ is respected more amongst fighters than the average fan. Most fighters put him in #1, but what do they know lol.
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"Most fighters put him #1"...i'm not so sure about that.
Any fighter should and probably would agree that BJ is near the top, but let's not start making random statistics up.
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