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Old 04-17-2009, 07:25 PM   #501 (permalink)

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Sherk would get mauled by Fitch and Alves, and probably Diego and Kos
This is asinine. Did you start watch MMA only after Sherk's suspension?
Sherk had a very solid record at WW. In fact his record was as good as any of those you listed.
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Old 04-17-2009, 07:35 PM   #502 (permalink)
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It's hard to say how GSP will do, because he's never challenged himself in that manner yet. BJ has, so he gets his props for doing so, and doing it pretty competitively except for you know what fight. He hasn't lost at LW since his first fight against Pulver and he has shown the ability to hang with the big boys at WW, and even at MW, to me that earns him high marks on the P4P list. And as for Henderson, that is a good question, he's in my top 10 P4P. Having guys like Forrest and Evans on it is a joke, and I like Griffin, but please.
How is losing proving anything?!?!? Why do you people continue to give hime credit for losing?!?!!?!?!? And he hasnt lost at LW since Pulver because hes only fought at LW 3 times in 7 years!!! ANd only one good opponent? What are you guys seeing in him?!?! And when has he hung in there at WW? 6 years ago when he had 2 good wins?? And at MW?!!? WTF?!?!

Why the fuck would you ever have Penn over Evans?!?!?!

Evans - the #1 fighter in the toughest division
-Just beat Chuck Liddell and the #1 fighter
-Undefeated

BJ Penn
- 4 total wins in 5 YEARS
- only one against quality competition

Hmmmm... why is it Evans is a joke and BJ is so great?? Hmmmm... so easy for weak minds to believe in the hype and never let go. Hell Forrest beat 2 #1s ina row, If BJ had did that, he would be a legend forever, no matter how many times he lost after that.

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No I'm not crazy, the LW division is deeper and more diverse than WW...and you overrate John Fitch.
Fitch is like 13-1 in his last 14 and his only lost is to GSP. He tied to UFC record for most consecutive wins. Meanwhile, BJ has 4 in 5 years. He has also foughta lot tougher and BEAT a lot tougher competition than BJ. Fitch is UNDERRATED! And the LW division isnt deep at all, it just has a lot of prospects, not many proven fighters. Who would even be the #2 contender?!?!?!? You cant even answer it.
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Old 04-17-2009, 08:23 PM   #503 (permalink)

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How is losing proving anything?!?!? Why do you people continue to give hime credit for losing?!?!!?!?!? And he hasnt lost at LW since Pulver because hes only fought at LW 3 times in 7 years!!! ANd only one good opponent? What are you guys seeing in him?!?! And when has he hung in there at WW? 6 years ago when he had 2 good wins?? And at MW?!!? WTF?!?!

Why the fuck would you ever have Penn over Evans?!?!?!

Evans - the #1 fighter in the toughest division
-Just beat Chuck Liddell and the #1 fighter
-Undefeated

BJ Penn
- 4 total wins in 5 YEARS
- only one against quality competition

Hmmmm... why is it Evans is a joke and BJ is so great?? Hmmmm... so easy for weak minds to believe in the hype and never let go. Hell Forrest beat 2 #1s ina row, If BJ had did that, he would be a legend forever, no matter how many times he lost after that.



Fitch is like 13-1 in his last 14 and his only lost is to GSP. He tied to UFC record for most consecutive wins. Meanwhile, BJ has 4 in 5 years. He has also foughta lot tougher and BEAT a lot tougher competition than BJ. Fitch is UNDERRATED! And the LW division isnt deep at all, it just has a lot of prospects, not many proven fighters. Who would even be the #2 contender?!?!?!? You cant even answer it.
while i agree with you i also think you are wasting your time.....you will never convince b.j.'s "fans" of anything other than he is the greatest fighter ever.
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Old 04-17-2009, 08:25 PM   #504 (permalink)
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Fitch and Alves are easily higher than Sherk p4p.
Wrong.
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Old 04-17-2009, 11:32 PM   #505 (permalink)
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Wrong.
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Old 04-17-2009, 11:37 PM   #506 (permalink)

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hes #6 on yahoo mma, i agree with their rankings because they combine every mma resource to make one official p4p ranking. its more accurate that way
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Old 04-18-2009, 12:17 PM   #507 (permalink)
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hes #6 on yahoo mma, i agree with their rankings because they combine every mma resource to make one official p4p ranking. its more accurate that way
4 wins in 5 years should never calculate to #5 P4P especially when youve lost 4 times as well. And 3 wins in 7 years at LW should never calculate to #1 LW. Well unless someone is really OVERRATED!
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MMA-ELO Blog Archive BJ Penn BTN


Also please read this and if you still think BJ is top 5 P4P or #1 LW than youre an IDIOT! Especially point 5.
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Old 04-18-2009, 01:20 PM   #509 (permalink)
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Well since Fitch fights better competition and BEATS better competition, th en yea Id say he ranks higher than ANYONE if the LW class.
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Old 04-18-2009, 01:27 PM   #510 (permalink)

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4 wins in 5 years should never calculate to #5 P4P especially when youve lost 4 times as well. And 3 wins in 7 years at LW should never calculate to #1 LW. Well unless someone is really OVERRATED!
Dude cut it already, no matter what we bring up you either ignore it or you try to find any reason to discredit penn's acheivments.

We understand YOU don't think he's a top lw or a top 10 p4p and by the looks of it you're not going to change your opinion.

Move on already..
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