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Old 10-04-2007, 03:16 PM   #611 (permalink)

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Any coward can muster up the courage to talk trash about PRIDE now that it's gone. That's what cowards do.
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Old 10-04-2007, 05:33 PM   #612 (permalink)

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Any coward can muster up the courage to talk trash about PRIDE now that it's gone. That's what cowards do.
Most of the "trash talk" in the article were common criticisms of PRIDE when it was in full force.....things like the last minute notice, scetchy scoring, tournament formats, champions being spoon fed easy wins, etc. The part of the article slamming the notion that PRIDE fighters were all better than the UFC fighters was something that was also complained about on here by the select few rational posters. The only part of the article that came to light after PRIDE was dead were the results of match ups that laid rest to the "PRIDE fighters>>>>all others" war cry.
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Old 10-04-2007, 05:52 PM   #613 (permalink)

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Any coward can muster up the courage to talk trash about PRIDE now that it's gone. That's what cowards do.
Yes because if Pride was still around they'd kick his ass on the Playground during recess

For goodness sake it was a company, they come and go all the time, stop treating it like it was Jesus walking on water. It came, it entertained people, it lost it's tv deal and it sold out to Zuffa; it's not like it's the first time a company that produced a product that people liked didn't make it financially. There is a fine line between fan and fanatic.
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Old 10-05-2007, 08:44 PM   #614 (permalink)

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Yes because if Pride was still around they'd kick his ass on the Playground during recess

For goodness sake it was a company, they come and go all the time, stop treating it like it was Jesus walking on water. It came, it entertained people, it lost it's tv deal and it sold out to Zuffa; it's not like it's the first time a company that produced a product that people liked didn't make it financially. There is a fine line between fan and fanatic.
Are you saying that the constant bashing that takes place on this forum is a normal behavior while supporting and rooting for an org or a fighter constitutes a fanatical behavior?
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Old 10-05-2007, 08:48 PM   #615 (permalink)

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Ok, so 3 of the last 6 posts are bumps from previous days. Which means they all FAILED. Let it die folks.
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Old 10-05-2007, 08:50 PM   #616 (permalink)

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I agree with your thoughts on the article, but if you're going to critique grammar/typos, make sure you know the diff between you're and "your"
Yeah and what the hell is Prejucide?

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It amazes me how many people lack basic critical reading or thinking skills; they just don't understand the thesis of anything they read, even if they're beaten over the head with it.
Yeah they're just Prejucide?
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Old 10-05-2007, 09:09 PM   #617 (permalink)

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I wrote a post a few months back called pride,and prejudice,now everything I already said comeng to the light
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Old 10-05-2007, 09:25 PM   #618 (permalink)

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All the Sherdog writers blow ass, and they all flip flop hardcore.
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Old 10-05-2007, 09:31 PM   #619 (permalink)

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Most of the "trash talk" in the article were common criticisms of PRIDE when it was in full force.....things like the last minute notice, scetchy scoring, tournament formats, champions being spoon fed easy wins, etc. The part of the article slamming the notion that PRIDE fighters were all better than the UFC fighters was something that was also complained about on here by the select few rational posters. The only part of the article that came to light after PRIDE was dead were the results of match ups that laid rest to the "PRIDE fighters>>>>all others" war cry.
The article first talks about bad decisions which, although should not take place, happens not just in PRIDE but in other organizations as well, including the UFC. So this part of the article should have never singled out PRIDE.

The sixth paragraph talks about how people thought of the TUF as a mere joke. The intent of the article was to accuse the PRIDE fans of taking the TUFer’s lighty but how can you say that it was only the PRIDE fans that thought this way? Many UFC fans trash talked TUF as well so you cannot single out PRIDE fans for this.

And as far as Shogun goes, I for one have always though of him as being overrated. How can Shogun be ranked above Wanderlei? The fact is, every MMA website had Shogun at the #1 spot so they are all guilty of irrationally overrating him. If anyone is to be blamed for overrating Shogun, the blame should never go to the fans; it should go directly to the MMA websites that held Shogun at that spot for who knows how long.

The article goes on to explain that since Gomi and Crocop were both defeated by UFC fighters, it concludes that PRIDE was overrated. Well, everyone from top to bottom has been saying that anything can happen in MMA, and if this logic is true, the recent defeat of Gomi and Crocop shouldn’t even be an issue. These upsets were taking place before the purchase of PRIDE by Zuffa to begin with. Crocop vs. Hunt was an upset that took place in PRIDE and so was Wanderlei vs. Henderson.

The article then, talks about the excuses for the PRIDE fighters losing the fight. Well, the bottom line is, the fighters themselves has never made any excuses for losing the fight. Sure, some fans made some crazy excuses for the fighters but any irrational excuses made by the fans should never be taken seriously. There are reasons why fighters lose and sometimes there reason for losing are legitimate.

The article mentioned squash matches. Welcome to Japan. You think PRIDE is the only organization to have ever incorporated a squash match? No. Look at FEG for example. Their K-1 and the HERO’S branch are guilty of this too. Majority of the Japanese fighters on their roster were cans but since the event takes place in Japan, in order to gain popularity, they had to include Japanese fighters in there. This doesn’t mean that the top competitions in PRIDE were cans or overrated.

This article in itself is prejudice to have attacked PRIDE the way it did from the start to the finish.
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