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Old 10-01-2007, 07:18 AM   #101 (permalink)

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an overweight 15 yearold who doesnt have the balls to fight does not make him uneducated in the sport of mma..

you going to tell roy williams at north carolina that he knows nothing about basketball because he never played any college ball?

tell jim lampley he doesnt know anything about boxing, because he isnt a boxer?

tell mike goldberg........huh never mind... bad example.
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:19 AM   #102 (permalink)

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Sorry, but Rossen is contradicting himself in the very same article. That qualifies him to be labled dumb. His article is mainly about UFC vs Pride and ending with a statement that all those rantings about org vs org is pointless. With this last sentence he questions his whole article. I don't know but an educated writer would have realized that this is stupid. Thus this article is of low quality.
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:22 AM   #103 (permalink)
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The article was right on the money.
Oh and when the ufc spoon feeds fighters it's out in the open and not made out to make the (rising fighter) seem unstoppable. (key word rising fighter or a fighter coming of a loss.)

rampage was done with pride before the sellout. are is rampage still hold'en it down for . (G.C.)or (KOTG) and A. silva was not a pride icon. he was a cage rage icon.
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:22 AM   #104 (permalink)
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Is this article a joke? Its basically a rant on how Pride is an overrated sham and the UFC is the greatest thing on earth.
Truth hurts???
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:25 AM   #105 (permalink)
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Rossan has proved time and again he is very bias
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:26 AM   #106 (permalink)

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The article sucks bigtime.. I can't belive what i'm reading. UFC feeds top fighters with can's for years.. And it's full of undeserving titlematches like Nate vs Franklin.. LOL..
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:26 AM   #107 (permalink)

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Re-read the last 2 paragraphs in the article.

I think the way he sums it up was very well done.

In essence he is saying orgs don't matter...
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:28 AM   #108 (permalink)
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Sorry, but Rossen is contradicting himself in the very same article. That qualifies him to be labled dumb. His article is mainly about UFC vs Pride and ending with a statement that all those rantings about org vs org is pointless. With this last sentence he questions his whole article. I don't know but an educated writer would have realized that this is stupid. Thus this article is of low quality.
His article is not about UFC vs. Pride. It's about the pointlessness of UFC vs. Pride. He simply brought up points that shows the UFC was not as inferior as all the Pride idiots thought. So his ending statement makes perfect sense if you actually understood the article.
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:29 AM   #109 (permalink)
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I'm not completely disagreeing with you, but a lot of the fights were influenced by the Japanese fan base.

We have to understand that Pride did not like Silva holding their belt for the longest time. They wanted a Japanese champion. Hence, yeah they gave Wand those guys, but unfortunately, they were not the best. However, you cannot discredit Wand for that he has stepped up and tried to test himself. UFC is not so far off since we know they want certain guys to hold their belts as well, hence some rematches and rubbermatches we've seen.

Fedor fought Randleman because CroCop got KTFO by Randleman. It would've been Fedor vs CroCop then winner fights Nog.

CroCop was building up for a long time coming from K-1 and yea Waterman was considered pretty good at hone point. The Japanese fighters were for the fan base. Comparable to Ohio liking Franklin. The ones I didn't mention were shitty matchups of course, but give credit to fighters who beat their opponents and train constantly for these fights w/o injury. Hell the best get beaten on any given night. (recently Serra and GSP...not discrediting Serra, but we all knew that was a shocker)
Exactly. Thank you.

The Japanese wanted a Japanese fighter to beat Silva. They even gave him the biggest one. All we have to do is use the same method the UFC/Chuck fans used, "He fought and beat everyone they put in front of him."

Shit Dos Cara... Nobody knew about him. So they took a risk in letting him try out his skill against CroCop and what happened? We already know. But what if he had been another Soko? He was an accomplished Pro-Wrestler so who knew what he had to offer. I heard the UFC was going to sign Brock Lesnar. Will you bitch about him?

I say its better losing to an unknown that goes on to be a superstar than to lose to a well known CAN like V. Overeem, Kanehara or Elvis.
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:30 AM   #110 (permalink)

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The article sucks bigtime.. I can't belive what i'm reading. UFC feeds top fighters with can's for years.. And it's full of undeserving titlematches like Nate vs Franklin.. LOL..
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yeah and pride's title shots were so great. Lilnog never got his. Fedor vs mark hunt? Silva vs Wanderlei is perhaps the worst example of this. Both had unfinished business in their own divisions.

Dan never defended his 183lb title that he won in 05.
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