Arlovski..Explain it to me. - Page 5

The Pitbully · 01-01-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by King_0f_N00bs

He has great potential, however IMO the fame, and clubbing has gotten to him. Which is why we hadn't seen-the AA of old

Whats the reason for not seeing the old Cro Cop while your explaining the MMA universe to us. The old Wandy?

Wayne Brady · 01-01-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by King_0f_N00bs

He has great potential, however IMO the fame, and clubbing has gotten to him. Which is why we hadn't seen-the AA of old

Maybe now that he isn't in the spotlight anymore he will get his fire back and try to get back to the top.

dickcheney · 01-01-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Pitbully

First you say sherdoggers were calling him overrated. Why does he get an immediate title shot. Then you say he is adored right now. All of this while Arlovski has been on the shelf for months? How does he go from overrated to adored without fighting?

the key words i used are "between" and "sherdoggers are fickle"

The Pitbully · 01-01-2008, 07:54 PM

Guys lose in mma. He's always in shape. Never gets tired. He always looks great. Never fat. He lost a couple of fights and showed up with a hot woman. So, everyone uses that as a crutch. Thinking that he just lost isn't enough. He has to have lost the fire due to the spotlight and the woman.

guttermouth · 01-01-2008, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayne Brady

How are you going to say Gonzaga is a flash in the pan? He KO'd Mirko and Broke Randy's arm with his high kicks and thats just his stand up. He is a BJJ expert and most importantly he is still pretty young. We will see if he can revenge his loss to Werdum or if he really is a flash, but I wouldn't dismiss him as flatly as you seem to imply we should.

Ok, so he's got BJJ, so do lots (500+)...he's young yeah, lots of young fighters..big and strong aren't always class opponents.
He KO'd Mirko when Mirko wasn't even close to being the competitor he was in PRIDE. He caught Mirko sleeping. And just because Randy is Randy, it does not mean he can stand up to high kicks, he's only human.
Oh yeah, Serra TKO over Georges first round....he's no 1 hit wonder..come on'

JerseyRob · 01-01-2008, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by guttermouth

Wow, you got me.
He won 1 out of 3 with Sylvia, which by no means is a great fighter.
He beat Werdum, who technically ranking wise, has lost to anyone with quality or potential.

I love the Gonzaga, Sanchez, Werdum junkies.

The fact that you say Sylvia isn't a great fighter shows YOU ARE A FUCKING NOOB! I hate Sylvia but the guy just beat Vera, beat Arlovski twice and has been champ twice.

AA's#1Fan · 01-01-2008, 07:56 PM

He is exciting (even if he hasn't shown is lately) he's got the fans, he's got the looks, and he puts asses in seats. Add that all up and it's what Dana wants. Dana may not own the whole thing but he has his sway.

I also realize that the UFC is on this "what have you done for me lately?" trip, and this is what it comes down to as to why we haven't seen him, other than the contract bs.

He isn't going to fall the way of Fedor by not fighting top competition. He is going to keep fighting the elite in where he is, and I fully believe that he is going to one day get his belt back. He's been around for a while, and he is staying for a while. his birthday is in a month, and guess what? he's still not 30 years old. Joe Silva, Dana white, and the Feritittas know this.

Spiffy · 01-01-2008, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Richnuttz

Bro, He is just a fucking cool guy! give the pitbull some love!

exacly! and in a very boring division of boring fighters its hard not to pull for him.

skylolow · 01-01-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Pitbully

I would like to hear your top 10? Just asking not bashing!

1. Fedor
2. Big Nog
3. Randy
4. Josh
5. Tim S.
6. Hunt (depending on what weight class you want to put him in)
7. Gonzaga
8. CroCop
9. Aleks
10. Sergei Kharitonov
11. Kongo (I could go slightly higher with him but no higher then eight)
12. AA
13. Werdum
14. Herring
After this it get quite cloudy. I believe there is a good hand full guys that would present major issues for A.A. after this (mainly strong wrestlers with decent striking).

The main issue is I don't think A.A. would beat Fedor, Nog, Randy, Josh, Hunt, CroCop, Aleks, and Sergei. You could even throw Tim S. in there since he beat him twice. 50/50 chance against Gonzaga, Kongo, Werdum (Again), and Herring. In todays landscape of HW's I just can't see A.A. ever being higher then about 8 in any world rankings. Which puts him on the low second tier of HW's to top of the third tier of HW's.

King_0f_N00bs · 01-01-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Pitbully

Whats the reason for not seeing the old Cro Cop while your explaining the MMA universe to us. The old Wandy?

Silly Noob - Crocop 's mental state and his duties in parliament as well as becoming trigger happy.
Wandy- idk maybe he can't clinch well when being flurried ?

I am always willing to help educate, we are all one