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Old 01-01-2008, 09:26 PM   #101 (permalink)
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sometimes Wins arent the only important thing. Heh as more or less dominated most of his competition, and you can just see by his style and skills that hes an animal and has alot of potential. Also his background and accomplishments in sambo give him some more credidentials
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Old 01-01-2008, 09:27 PM   #102 (permalink)

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A lot of fighters have potential to be good, with enough time, training and team. But that is not a valid reason for him to get a 1 or 2 then title. I could speak that line for some many fighters. I do understand what you are getting at tho...
Yeah, and I thought the loss of the 2nd match with Sylvia was bullshit. Sylvia was hitting his hand, which was covering the back of his head, clearly a no strike zone.
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Old 01-02-2008, 03:35 AM   #103 (permalink)
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cause he flows like a butterfly and strikes like a bee, that's about it
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Old 01-02-2008, 03:44 AM   #104 (permalink)

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I like him because he's exciting. He is very fast and well rounded, he can knock you out in 1 punch.

He is just mentally fragile and has a weak chin.
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:25 AM   #105 (permalink)

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1. Fedor
2. Big Nog
3. Randy
4. Josh
5. Tim S.
6. Hunt (depending on what weight class you want to put him in)
7. Gonzaga
8. CroCop
9. Aleks
10. Sergei Kharitonov
11. Kongo (I could go slightly higher with him but no higher then eight)
12. AA
13. Werdum
14. Herring
After this it get quite cloudy. I believe there is a good hand full guys that would present major issues for A.A. after this (mainly strong wrestlers with decent striking).

The main issue is I don't think A.A. would beat Fedor, Nog, Randy, Josh, Hunt, CroCop, Aleks, and Sergei.
The main issue here is that rankings arent based on what you think, solely. They are based mostly off of who has beat who, then potential-fight endings-etc.

You have Randy above Josh, how?
You have Mark Hunt at number 6, how?
Werdum defeated both Aleks and Gonzaga, but I guess that is worthless.
Vera is completely absent from your list.

This is the worst attempt at making a case for why AA isnt top ten I have ever seen.
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:28 AM   #106 (permalink)

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watch the eilers, buentello and sylvia 1 and u will know why everyone likes aa, he was an absolute animal i hope he gets that hunger bakc
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You honestly think A.A. is a better fighter then CroCop. Pleaseeeee that is just retarded.
So before Gonzaga and Kongo, did you think they were both better than Mirko?

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Mark Hunt would give fits to any fighter period. Simply because he just about impossible to K.O. and hits like a freight train.
Just because he can give a fighter problems, doesnt mean he has. Hunt has shown weakness in submissions, meaning standing with him isnt a must. AA has given alot of fighters "fits", does that make him top 6, of course not.

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Just because Aleks lost to Werdum doesn't mean he'd lose to A.A.. Style makes fights and Alek's weakness is strong submission game. A.A. would stand there and try to bang and I'll take Aleks in slugfest over A.A. anyday. This would be the same if A.A. fought CroCop. I know Aleks and CroCop can take a solid punch and I know A.A. has suspect chin.
Your right that just because Aleks lost to Werdum doesnt mean he would lose to AA, but it doesnt mean that that fight didnt happen. You cant discredit a fighter for something that hasnt or may not even happen.

How is strong submissions Aleks weakness? Just because he lost to one submission guy. I could easily say that striking is his weak point because Mirko KO'd him.

I'd take AA in a standup fight. Better conditioning, kicks, great speed, and more power.
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Old 01-02-2008, 01:49 PM   #108 (permalink)

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Boy some of you're really hung up on A.A.. There is a reason that the UFC and A.A. have been basically at a stale mate for the last three to four months plus on his contract. It has alot more to do then just with $$$$$. A.A. was simply a product of lesser competition. He got caught and now the guy mentally has seem to have folded up like a lawn chair in his striking game. I think the UFC's management looks at A.A. as a boarderline gate keeper at this point. A.A. has been around long enough that you know what your getting with him. He isn't some spring chicken like Gonzaga who chances are hasn't reached his true potential yet.

Oh hester65 I personally don't think Kongo is a better fighter then CroCop. On that day he was better. A much more focused CroCop I think would beat Kongo 8 out of 10 times. Gonzaga is still young so to me the jury is still out. Though Gonzaga I believe has a much better MMA game then CroCop does. The guy has solid striking, decent takedowns, and a very strong ground game. He is well rounded and just needs more experience and hopefully he holds up mentally.
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He does have a slew of KO's and he was HW champ for like what a year or something. He has all the tools to be a great fighter, and one hes a cool guy with a good personality.
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Full body of work? GG and Aleks haven't beaten anybody. Sergei hasn't beaten anybody. You honestly think GG is a better fighter than AA. Pleaseeeee that is just retarded. You thinking here comes along the same lines as your thread that said HMC has a 75 percent chance of beating Fedor in a rematch if he comes out with better lay n pray tactics. PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
Did you even watch the HMC vs Fedor fight???? Because if you did you know exactly what I was talking about in that thread. HMC lost that fight because of inexperience. The guy is so damn huge that if he used a simple LnP or stay standing Fedor would really have to pull a rabbit out of the hat to win. Fedor couldn't take him down. HMC had any submission defense he won't get caught in those easy armbars Fedor got him on. Plus keep in mind Choi choice was not to allow knees (still baffles me). Throw knees in and Fedor really is going to have a problem. Trust me HMC takes that fight seriously and trains for like six months for MMA he has a very solid chance of beating Fedor or just about anyone for that matter. There is a reason for weight classes and you saw it in that fight. HMC's arm was like the size of Fedor's torso. His head was like 3 of Fedor's heads. It was just shocking seeing him on top of Fedor.
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