[Juggalo]

I think this would be a great fight, But I think Penn would win it

[PD4838]

Penn by whatever he wants

[JudoCan]

BJ is a terrible match up for Aoki. My god that would be feeding him to the wolves.
Seriously Aoki would get KTFO within 60 seconds

[schico23]

Originally Posted by J.D. Stanley

How much time does it take to pull off a sub? If could happen in the first 10 seconds of a round or the very last second. How long the round is doesn't matter. This match up is kind of like a Fedor vs Cro cop fight. It's not that Aoki is better than BJ but can he catch him making a mistake? And before anyone jumps on me, I'm not comparing BJ or Aoki to Fedor or Cro Cop. Just saying that its the same kind of match up where all it will take for Aoki to win is one mistake on BJ's part.

The length of a round matters because with two highly skilled grapplers it takes time and multiple submission attempts in order to sub someone who is at a high level. The longer you are on the ground, the longer someone has to not make a mistake. Another reason A person has a better chance of catching someone in a sub in 10 minutes as opposed to 5, is becuase there is a great chance of someone becoming fatigued and careless.

[J.D. Stanley]

Originally Posted by schico23

The length of a round matters because with two highly skilled grapplers it takes time and multiple submission attempts in order to sub someone who is at a high level. The longer you are on the ground, the longer someone has to not make a mistake. Another reason A person has a better chance of catching someone in a sub in 10 minutes as opposed to 5, is becuase there is a great chance of someone becoming fatigued and careless.

Agree with you on what you say about the fatigue but also at there level its just who ever makes the first mistake. I think fighters make more mistakes in the first round when they are feeling out the fight than they do in the 2nd and 3rd.

[§£øÅÐëЧ]

Originally Posted by --Hinch--

Judo teaches freestyle wrestling shoots?

Hansen took Judo?

[Shaydawg]

For those of you who think Aoki would beat BJ on the ground come talk to me when he has the same credentials.

[Sleepdancer]

Originally Posted by Bring On Fedor

Aoki has a couple HL reel subs, but is mostly unproven against top competition. Aoki will not sub Penn, and will get picked apart on his feet and probably (T)KO'd

I agree with the last points you make, except the facts that you say he's unproven against top competition. Hansen, Kikuchi, Jason Black and Mach Sakurai are scary competition for any light weight fighter.

[atlas74]

Originally Posted by Bring On Fedor

Aoki has a couple HL reel subs, but is mostly unproven against top competition. Aoki will not sub Penn, and will get picked apart on his feet and probably (T)KO'd

What he said.

[gusanastro]

Aoki by leg strangulation!!!