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Old 05-17-2008, 12:01 AM   #2001 (permalink)

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Agreed. Good fighter. But his skill set is only good for lighter weight bouts. P4P implies his skills would translate to other weights as well. And they wouldnt. He gasses at 155. and 185 he'd be like phil baroni with worse hands and good Jits.
Your outta your mind bro....??????? Wont translate hmmmm ok well Machida is regarded a top 205er and Bj beat him in that fight IMO (Couture was at the fight and agreed BJ was jobbed). BJ has 3 losses against top fighters that the decision could have gone either way Uno,Pierre,machida. Dont translate man you are a retard Pierre last I checked is DOMINATING the WW division and is regarded by a lot of people as the best P4P fighter in the world period. The dude is 5'9 and a natural 155er and has beaten Arguebly the best WW of all time Hughes and was dominating him again before seperating and breaking ribs. Hey man yor right though they dont translate and he gasses at 155 yet he is the champ (strange) Get off the site sucka your point is not valid!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ibelieve the top 205er in the world Rampage has also stated that BJ is the best fighter in the world not at lighweight but the WORLD...
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excellent OP> I'd never read it before. All true and very well put. If it at least opens up the eyes of one uninformed fan, mission accomplished. BJ is truely among the MMA Elite and you don't have to be a nuthugger to say that.
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Old 05-17-2008, 12:15 AM   #2003 (permalink)

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It is hard to remember/believe, but at the time Uno was recognised as a top 3 fighter, and a guy who on his day could beat anybody in the world.
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well, not hard for the old timers ;)

and now uno is showin these clueless n00bs what he's all about. i love it. ishida what?
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Old 05-17-2008, 12:44 AM   #2004 (permalink)

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well it took me a few hours but I finally finished reading this thread. thanks for the post. I admit I was not familiar with MMA to the point of knowing Penn's history. thanks for sharing!
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Old 05-17-2008, 01:17 AM   #2005 (permalink)

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Great OP, I hope you have eased some of the people that believe BJ is over hyped but I know you have added fuel to all the BJ zealots!
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Old 05-17-2008, 01:26 AM   #2006 (permalink)

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Definitely VERY GOOD post!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-17-2008, 01:35 AM   #2007 (permalink)

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BJ is definetly one of the top fighters out there but he actually has a losing record (3-4) against top competition (Hughes, St Pierre, Machida, Pulver). To be honest, although I wouldn't put it above him, I would be suprised if he can hang onto the title.

Penn fans, you can tell all the stories you want. . . . when it comes to fighting nothing can substitute for the W's and BJ just doesn't look fantastic in that department.

Just to make myself clear, Im not saying he isn't one of the top fighters in the world. . . . just far from being considered best of the best. Recognition from his fan club doesn't mean anything.
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Old 05-17-2008, 01:36 AM   #2008 (permalink)
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This just shows you that the average boxing poster knows their things. P4p boxing forum is the smartest forum on sherdog.
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Old 05-17-2008, 01:40 AM   #2009 (permalink)

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He is a legend without a doubt but there are plenty of fighters that would give him a run for his money in today's UFC.
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:41 PM   #2010 (permalink)

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he needs to rematch GSP
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