Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums

Go Back   Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums > Fight Discussion > The Heavyweights: UFC and WEC


The Heavyweights: UFC and WEC Discuss all Zuffa-related promotions: UFC, WEC and former Pride events here.

Reply
 
LinkBack (11) Thread Tools
Old 01-17-2008, 03:02 AM   #1031 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 789
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottie2hotttie View Post
The fact is that BJ hasn't had a win over a top ranked opponent since his fight with Hughes nearly 4 years ago. All his great wins are in the past and he's still living off the Hughes win. That one, dominant win put him on the map. And without it we wouldn't even be talking about him. And everytime he loses(which is a lot these days) there is always some lame excuse from his die hard fans.
You can have all the talent and potential in the world but if you lose it means nothing. He has only himself to blame and I wish people would stop making excuses for him because it's getting real old.
and don't worry, he'll be living off of Joe's defeat.
McPwner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2008, 03:19 AM   #1032 (permalink)

Purple Belt
 
aichaboomboom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,524
great post dude. good job.
__________________
Pride & UFC!

PRIDE 33 was fucking incredible!
aichaboomboom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2008, 03:21 AM   #1033 (permalink)

Orange Belt
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: IL
Posts: 378
Send a message via AIM to phenotauro
excellent post. it's unfortunate that bj has never really shown the true heart and determination of a champion because i think that his overall natural ability is unmatched. his technique, be it his striking, wrestling, or jiu-jitsu is just phenomenal. honestly, anyone that has an interest in learning jiu-jitsu for mma, just watch bj fight and you'll learn a lot. it's truly amazing to watch. the way he took hughes' back in both fights or how quick he set up that go-go attempt on st. pierre is just ridiculous. his takedown defense is an art of its own and his stand up game is fantastic. the way he literally jumped over st. pierre's kick when he went for the back leg still leaves me shaking my head. war bj...
phenotauro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2008, 03:29 AM   #1034 (permalink)

Purple Belt
 
claddagh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 2,085
amazingly written... glad this was brought back for me to see.
__________________
Currently aboard:
Ťĥę Šĥíńŷâ Āōķî Ðřuňķēň ~Ŕåîńbőŵ~ Ŵäģőʼn!
The Shane Carwin 5x Prayer Wagon
claddagh is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2008, 09:19 AM   #1035 (permalink)

Green Belt
 
WarPenn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,338
War Penn!
WarPenn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2008, 09:33 AM   #1036 (permalink)

Red Belt
 
Iron Hand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sweden
Posts: 8,684
Word on that one.
BJ is a god.
Iron Hand is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2008, 04:39 PM   #1037 (permalink)

Blue Belt
 
BackBrainKick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: So.Cal
Posts: 857
BJ looked like a monster.

Props to the TS!!!

WAR PENN!!!
__________________
<-------- 170lb. Kaokalai KOing 260+lb Mighty Mo
BackBrainKick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2008, 04:52 PM   #1038 (permalink)

White Belt
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 90
off the chain like ma nicca hurricane
throw some ds is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2008, 05:20 AM   #1039 (permalink)

Green Belt
 
BJJK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,212
Simple answer to BJ haters....

You guys hate him because he's that good right?

You BJ haters are ridiculous to the fullest extent. Let me explain to you guys clearly in what I mean.

Before the fight, Stevenson was considered the top LW contender and one of the best fighters in the world. There were a lot of threads like "I pray that BJ loses," "BJ is 3 for 5 in his fights, he will lose to Daddy," "Joe Daddy will beat BJ I guarantee it," etc etc. Hmm...I'm sure these idiots were confident enough to bet their money against BJ, so right after BJ stomped Joe, in a twist of anger and boiling blood pressure, these same idiots had to come back and diss Joe. These idiots were saying shit like Joe sucked, Joe wasn't even in BJ's league so it doesn't count, BJ's cardio is still a suspect, Joe Stevenson is so whack that he dropped in weight, Joe Stevenson was never a top contender, (anything they could say to discredit BJ's win and down play on BJ's ability.) After reading these embarassing/moronic posts, I literally LMAO, just to see these cry babies crying over Joe's lost and what made it even better was that some of these idiots lost money in the process.

Heres a fact for you delusional idiots, Penn tore through the LW division, he will tear through it again. Saying one of the best/most gifted fighters was never a dominant force is just wrong and points oneself to be a BJ hater. He's 8-1-1 in his fights, avenging the only lost he had in the LW division which was Pulver..

Speaking of Pulver...I love how people were treading on him too after getting whooped by BJ. But what happened to Pulver after the fight was totally different than Joe's loss to BJ. Jens took some of the hardest criticism and bandwagon jumping/shit talking ever on Sherdog. These hypocrites who said Pulver would knock BJ out or that he would outwork BJ because he had more heart and cardio made a complete 180 degree turn after Pulver lost, and started bagging on him like they never even said he had a chance to win before. Well guess what happened, he went to the WEC and choked out an undefeated Cub Swanson....this didnt really play out to what "once were Pulver's fan" claim about Jens, a washed up fighter. Talking about his fight with BJ, yea he was leagues below BJ, but he was still a dangerous fight for BJ and could have knocked him out. However it didnt go that way and the win for BJ wasn't the win BJ could have but to him it was a huge personal victory which put his mind set at a place where it is today.

Now...In closing thoughts, there is no point in explaining BJ's skills and accomplishments if you juust want to see his record on paper. If you did not actually see BJ Penn's fights, your hating posts mean as much as a crackhead's life lessons. And if you did watch the fights, then you are just an idiot and a hater of Penn. The reason why people like and praise BJ so much is because he has a rare talent most other fighters don't have. But if you just want analyze his record and every loss in his career than you will probably never understand this.
BJJK is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2008, 05:24 AM   #1040 (permalink)

Orange Belt
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Parrsboro, N.S.
Posts: 370
Send a message via MSN to Mike Forbes
Very well thought out and written first post. You obviously know some MMA.

However, I root for BJ to lose simply because of over the top fans like you.
__________________
"Sometimes hype just isn't enough." - Jens Pulver.
Mike Forbes is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/all-newer-fans-why-bj-so-respected-585130/
Posted By For Type Date
UFC & MMA Discussion Thread - Page 48 - PbNation This thread Refback 07-08-2008 01:17 PM
UFC & MMA Discussion Thread - Page 48 - PbNation This thread Refback 07-08-2008 12:18 PM
To all newer fans - This is why BJ is so respected - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums This thread Refback 06-06-2008 02:37 PM
CFZ Forums -> To all newer fans - This is why BJ is so respected This thread Refback 05-29-2008 07:52 PM
To all newer fans - This is why BJ is so respected - Page 4 - MMA News Forums This thread Pingback 05-28-2008 05:22 AM
To all newer fans - This is why BJ is so respected - MMA News Forums This thread Pingback 05-27-2008 10:43 PM
UFC 84: Ill Will - Page 5 - Rudius Media Message Board This thread Refback 05-06-2008 12:48 AM
UFC 84: Ill Will - Page 5 - Rudius Media Message Board This thread Refback 05-05-2008 05:19 PM
UFC 84: Ill Will - Page 5 - Rudius Media Message Board This thread Refback 05-05-2008 05:00 PM
UFC 84: Ill Will - Page 5 - Rudius Media Message Board This thread Refback 05-05-2008 02:44 PM
UFC 84: Ill Will - Page 5 - Rudius Media Message Board This thread Refback 05-05-2008 02:41 PM


Latest Threads



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:56 AM.

Sherdog.com Forum Rules Clear Cookies Social Groups Lost Password

Skin made by Alex. © iStyles.uni.cc Powered by vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2009 Sherdog.com | Privacy Policy | Click here to advertise on Sherdog