is this an acceptable mma sponsor? - Page 13

SouTHernSluGGer · 10-23-2009, 10:37 PM

good job Danzig...... losing just wasn't enough for you was it?

xThunderx** · 10-23-2009, 10:48 PM

Disgusting, these people deserves to get their asses whooped.
I guess America didn't kick the Nazi's asses hard enough last time.

mmanut · 10-23-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunto21

So it's semi-Nazi looking? Who cares? If I saw someone wearing it I wouldn't give a crap. There are no actual Nazi slogans, relax shertards.

Semi-Nazi looking? If you had half a clue about the symbology of the Third Reich you wouldn't think that it was "semi" Nazi looking. Unless you've never actually seen a picture of a WWII-era soldat I would expect you to realize that death's heads wearing SS crusher caps and M42 Stahelms are not Germanic symbols but symbols of one era in German history, '39-45. If you're using the word "reich", decorating clothes with runes that are plays on lightning runes and swastikas, using a slogan that is a direct reference to the Hitler Jugend motto, using the Hoheitszeichen eagle along with the eisenkreuz, and the totenkopf is wearing WWII German uniforms, you're a Nazi or at least sympathetic to their cause. I've said this at least three times in this thread already and I'm actually astonished that there is anyone that can take a look at these clothes and not tell what they are.

Here's some help for you. The first picture is the SS Totenkopf, the link is to Hoelzer Reich's version of it. Throughout history the death's head has been used symbolically by many cultures and militaries but the SS Totenkopf was very distinctive and identical to the model they're using for their "have a nice day" shirt.

Hoelzer Reich Clothing - German Iron Cross & Skull T Shirts

Sie Sind irgendein sehr dummes oder bereitwillig unwissend wenn Sie können Sie nicht sehen Sie dieses für was es ist.

Mr.pain · 10-23-2009, 10:59 PM

Mutha Brucka · 10-23-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunto21

As a proud German myself I say no.

I'm taking German in college, and a foreign exchange student from Germany told us you guys dont even embrace your own flag. So I can't expect you to embrace3 that symbol. Not suprising to me.

Hunto21 · 10-23-2009, 11:12 PM

I actually have a serious question for you guys who know more about German history than myself. I recently found out that I'm a decendant of German royalty my great grandma x5 or something like that was a daughter of Kaiser Wilhelm. I was thinking about getting the German Royal symbol tatooed on my back. Any Nazi symbolsim in this I should worry about? I'm serious....

Hunto21 · 10-23-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutha Brucka

I'm taking German in college, and a foreign exchange student from Germany told us you guys dont even embrace your own flag. So I can't expect you to embrace3 that symbol. Not suprising to me.

I wrote that before really looking into the symbolism on the shirt. I didn't see any swatstikas so I initially thought it was ok.

mmanut · 10-23-2009, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunto21

I actually have a serious question for you guys who know more about German history than myself. I recently found out that I'm a decendant of German royalty my great grandma x5 or something like that was a daughter of Kaiser Wilhelm. I was thinking about getting the German Royal symbol tatooed on my back. Any Nazi symbolsim in this I should worry about? I'm serious....

Something tells me that's you're full of shit since you've switched stances from claiming that you're a proud German who wouldn't support this company to saying "it's only semi-Nazi so who cares" but I'll bite anyway. No, there's no Nazi symbolism in this. It's got lots of eisenkreuzen and the eagle but that's the old Imperial eagle which is more like the modern fette henne Federal eagle, far removed from the Hoheitszeichen national eagle used by this lovely clothing company and the NSDAP. And as stated previously, the eisenkreuz was established as a symbol long before the Nazi party came to power and it's still the Bundeswehr's emblem.

Hunto21 · 10-23-2009, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mmanut

Something tells me that's you're full of shit since you've switched stances from claiming that you're a proud German who wouldn't support this company to saying "it's only semi-Nazi so who cares" but I'll bite anyway. No, there's no Nazi symbolism in this. It's got lots of eisenkreuzen and the eagle but that's the old Imperial eagle which is more like the modern fette henne Federal eagle, far removed from the Hoheitszeichen national eagle used by this lovely clothing company and the NSDAP. And as stated previously, the eisenkreuz was established as a symbol long before the Nazi party came to power and it's still the Bundeswehr's emblem.

Actually if you read my original post again, you'll see that I said I "didn't" see anything wrong with the clothing. Obviously I don't feel that way now, thanks to your insight.

TNT-Kid · 10-23-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by shiva

Mac Danzig UFC 100 Hoelzer Reich Signature T-shirt

Well seeing that Mac Danzig has said racist things in the past and established himself as a blowhard, I can't say I am surprised seeing him wear this shirt. So um... good for him....