[the_Dark Knight]

i had a disscussion with my friend about Fedor signing with Mark Cuban is a bad idea, but he insist that him signing with the UFC is bad (he thinks the UFC is horrible place to be for some reason, and he cant seem to stop reliving Prides glory days) I wanna get some your opinions on the points he brought up, and my response to him: This is not me bashin Fedor or anything like that, just a dissuccion to see which would be a betyter move for him.. (sorry its so long)

He says: Mark Cuban is a professional, and Dana White is unprofessional because he cusses during an interview, and when Cuban cusses its because he cares about his team, and everyone can have fun an express them selves at a b ball game

I say: 1st off, wtf does them cussing have anything to do with Fedor signing, but any who, Cuban yells at the refs, and cusses at them, and hes classy and professional, but dana drops an F bomb here and there at an interview, but hes classless and unprofessional?

He says: Mark is a great buisnessman whos worth billions, so he must know what hes doing, s othats why Fedor should sign with him

I say; Mark Cuban knows nothing about the sport, he'll make a mockery of it, the way Vince McMahon did with football, he'll create all this buzz and then it'll be a sloppy product and fizzle out. I tried telling him marketing B Ball and MMA are two different things. B Ball is excepted by people and censors, MMA has to fight to stay on tv, Mark will just fuck it up

He Says: Mark cares for his employees, and he'll spoil him, Dana only cares for people making him PPV money

I say: How do you know for a fact that Cuban cares and Dana doesnt? I gave him the example of Dana holding on to Babalu (after he got arrested), and gave him another chance, that shows he cares. Aside from that, their BOTH in there to make money, they dont have to care about the people who work for them, their both about money. But when you break it down Dana has a love for the sport, Cuban is just captializing on its popularity

He Says: Dana is disrespectful to russians, japanese, and former UFC fighters'

I say: i havent heard about that, i know he had some comments for Barnett, because he was being dissrespectful to Randy and his accomplishments, shows he cares for his fighters

last one guys i promise

He says: Fedor doesnt need the UFC they need him, and if they dont need him why do they keep buggin him for a contract? he needs to go with Cuban because he is the best, and Cuban will show that to everyone

I say: Worng, they DON'T need him, itll be nice to have him, and they hound him for a contract cuz hes one of the best fighters around, and the UFC wants to sign the best they can get, look at how they hounded Wand and Rampage with contracts, They signed the rest of Prides top HWs, theres no reason, what so ever, Fedor shouldnt already be fighting in the UFC.
You would rather have him signed with a no name company, then the Main Event of MMA, and thatll somehow prove he really is the best? i dont get it?

your thoughts please..

[TOBY HUSS]

so would Mark Cuban be his manager or... whats their connection??

[Sean]

Originally Posted by TOBY HUSS

so would Mark Cuban be his manager or... whats their connection??

Word is he is starting his own MMA promotion and has already hired Guy Mezger to run things.

[Commissar]

Originally Posted by the_Dark Knight

i had a disscussion with my friend about Fedor signing with Mark Cuban is a bad idea, but he insist that him signing with the UFC is bad (he thinks the UFC is horrible place to be for some reason, and he cant seem to stop reliving Prides glory days) I wanna get some your opinions on the points he brought up, and my response to him: This is not me bashin Fedor or anything like that, just a dissuccion to see which would be a betyter move for him.. (sorry its so long)

He says: Mark Cuban is a professional, and Dana White is unprofessional because he cusses during an interview, and when Cuban cusses its because he cares about his team, and everyone can have fun an express them selves at a b ball game

I say: 1st off, wtf does them cussing have anything to do with Fedor signing, but any who, Cuban yells at the refs, and cusses at them, and hes classy and professional, but dana drops an F bomb here and there at an interview, but hes classless and unprofessional?

He says: Mark is a great buisnessman whos worth billions, so he must know what hes doing, s othats why Fedor should sign with him

I say; Mark Cuban knows nothing about the sport, he'll make a mockery of it, the way Vince McMahon did with football, he'll create all this buzz and then it'll be a sloppy product and fizzle out. I tried telling him marketing B Ball and MMA are two different things. B Ball is excepted by people and censors, MMA has to fight to stay on tv, Mark will just fuck it up

He Says: Mark cares for his employees, and he'll spoil him, Dana only cares for people making him PPV money

I say: How do you know for a fact that Cuban cares and Dana doesnt? I gave him the example of Dana holding on to Babalu (after he got arrested), and gave him another chance, that shows he cares. Aside from that, their BOTH in there to make money, they dont have to care about the people who work for them, their both about money. But when you break it down Dana has a love for the sport, Cuban is just captializing on its popularity

He Says: Dana is disrespectful to russians, japanese, and former UFC fighters'

I say: i havent heard about that, i know he had some comments for Barnett, because he was being dissrespectful to Randy and his accomplishments, shows he cares for his fighters

last one guys i promise

He says: Fedor doesnt need the UFC they need him, and if they dont need him why do they keep buggin him for a contract? he needs to go with Cuban because he is the best, and Cuban will show that to everyone

I say: Worng, they DON'T need him, itll be nice to have him, and they hound him for a contract cuz hes one of the best fighters around, and the UFC wants to sign the best they can get, look at how they hounded Wand and Rampage with contracts, They signed the rest of Prides top HWs, theres no reason, what so ever, Fedor shouldnt already be fighting in the UFC.
You would rather have him signed with a no name company, then the Main Event of MMA, and thatll somehow prove he really is the best? i dont get it?

your thoughts please..

You're wrong. Your friend doesn't think the UFC is a horrible place, he doesn't like the idea of a monopoly in MMA. If all the fighters go to the UFC, that's bad for the sport. Horrible for the sport, in fact. It would ruin MMA. And it's almost there.

Fedor should sign with K-1. It's a step closer to having two major organizations again, without fear of a monopoly.

[the_Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by TOBY HUSS

so would Mark Cuban be his manager or... whats their connection??

hes be like a boss and manage and promoter, its a wierd deal they were working on, its on the sherdog main page somewhere.

[Commissar]

Originally Posted by Sean

Word is he is starting his own MMA promotion and has already hired Guy Mezger to run things.

Not starting, he said he was going to attach himself to a pre-existing, established one.

[the_Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by Commissar

You're wrong. Your friend doesn't think the UFC is a horrible place, he doesn't like the idea of a monopoly in MMA. If all the fighters go to the UFC, that's bad for the sport. Horrible for the sport, in fact. It would ruin MMA. And it's almost there.

Fedor should sign with K-1. It's a step closer to having two major organizations again, without fear of a monopoly.

well think about it like this, Who is the NBAs main competitor? Whos the NFLs main competitor? Theres none, yet people all over the world like it, and no one complains about them being the big shit in their sports...

[DirtyML]

Theres none, yet people all over the world like it, and no one complains about them being the big shit in their sports...

It's marketed more effectively and also they have minimum salaries and unions.

Nice try though.

[juggo]

Originally Posted by the_Dark Knight

I say; Mark Cuban knows nothing about the sport, he'll make a mockery of it, the way Vince McMahon did with football, he'll create all this buzz and then it'll be a sloppy product and fizzle out. I tried telling him marketing B Ball and MMA are two different things. B Ball is excepted by people and censors, MMA has to fight to stay on tv, Mark will just fuck it up

Have you read any of Cuban's quotes on this?

It sounds to me like he thinks Dana, the UFC, and other organizations are the ones making the mockery of the sport. Cuban says he wants to treat this guys with respect, like the professional athletes they are, with health benefits, the ability to fight in other promotions, etc. Comparing Cuban in MMA to McMahon and the XFL is ridiculous. McMahon tried to trick football the fuck up and turn it into some "xtreme" bullshit. Cuban seems to be wanting to turn this into a more pure form of competition, not as much about entertainment, but more about the sport.

Your point about him here is way off the mark, no pun intended.

And hey, I'm not sold on this being good for the sport either and would rather see Fedor fight consistent top competition. But the slams on Cuban are uncalled for. He's not a bad guy, he's not a sleazy guy, he's a marketing guru who made a lot of money and can afford to invest in his passions, sports & technology the primary two.

[IIIIIIII]

Why doesn't Cuban just buy the UFC? He sure has a lot more $ than the Fertittas.