[Gun'n'Run]

I have to say that neither option sounds good. Mir's conditioning is never good. But Brock could come in and just get too much adrenaline going in his first real big fight and blow himself out too, so I'd say both guys have uncertain conditioning, with Mir's more certain because it will probably suck.

Brock's chin doesn't seem like as big of a question mark because Mir has won most of his fights by sub, so it seems a little unlikely that Brock's chin will determine the outcome. I would say the most uncertain thing is going to be Brock's skill.

[phys_therapy]

Originally Posted by RexNFX140

62% of Sherdoggers don't know the definition of "uncertainty." Mir's conditioning is as certain as it comes.

From his pre-accident fights vs. Ian Freeman and Wes Sims to his post-accident fights vs. Marcio Cruz and Dan Christison, Mir's conditioning is among the worst in the UFC. How is that uncertain?

Mir's conditioning is almost as certain as BJ Penn's jiu-jitsu or Chuck Liddell's overhand right, but it's certainly bad, rather than certainly good (in BJ or Chuck's case).

Compare that to Lesnar's chin. When has anyone seen him punched in the face? Never.

It's almost the same thing with BJ Penn. BJ used to have horrible conditioning, but he has completely changed that around. Even when BJ showed up in shape against Pulver, everyone was guessing as to what kind of shape BJ was going to be in at the Stevenson fight.

Mir is certainly more skilled than Brock, but it could turn into another O'Brien vs. Herring. TD after TD after TD and numerous stand-ups are gonig to be the norm for this fight if Mir doesn't train.

When Frank fought Vera, he was 255lbs +/- and was in pretty good shape. He lost, but whether he lost purely because Vera is more skilled than him or not, Mir chose to stand with him and not even attempt going to the mat, where his size would have given him more of an advantage.

You should realize that the polls are OPINIONS.

The uncertainty comes from the fact that if Frank loses to Lesnar, then that puts him in a very bad situation with his career. There's no doubting Lesnar's athletic ability, but if Frank loses, he still lost to a guy who is 1-0 in MMA overall making his UFC debut. Will Frank take his conditioning seriously?

We'll just have to see.

[baba2008]

Originally Posted by RexNFX140

Compare that to Lesnar's chin. When has anyone seen him punched in the face? Never.

I've seen him get hit in the head with a chair!!!! Does that count?

[acyron]

Originally Posted by Brand Nizzel

Wow, I can't believe someone with your post count would say something as RETARDEd as this. If you think Lesnar became an NCAA finisher with QUESTIONABLE cardio than you either never wrestled before or never competed in anything physical. Although it is true that cardio for wrestling is pretty different than cardio when it comes to striking....Lesnar is still in phenomenal shape.

A collegiate wrestling bout is shorter than a UFC fight. Besides Brock hasn't competeted in wrestling for a long time. There is nothing that indicates good cardio in him. He's bigger and more muscular than Mir. It is not mandatory to think his cardio is expected to be better.

How is that for retarded?

[phys_therapy]

Originally Posted by baba2008

I've seen him get hit in the head with a chair!!!! Does that count?

no, it doesn't.

[jayrich22]

Exactly What I Thought When I Saw The Results After Voting For Brocks Chin!

[CJLX]

Originally Posted by DUGGIE

Conditioning isn't going to play a factor because Mir is going to end this in the first round.

I've seen Mir gas in the first 45 seconds, so yeah his conditioning is a massive factor.

[DRAGON SLAYER]

i dont know wich frank mir some of u guys r talking about but ive never seen him in a fight where he showed good conditioning.any fight he was in that went more then 4 min he was tired as hell. so what r u guys talking about " in shape n out of shape mir"? what fight did he show endurance in????????

[MassAttack2]

Originally Posted by glacier

most fans have seen the difference between a fit, in shape mir... and the tired, out of shape mir. on more then one occasion.


maybe it's you that doesnt know the definition of uncertainty.

edit: seeing as this is a huge fight for him, i bet we'll see the fit, in shape mir again.

Exactly. I picked Mir's area of question as the more important uncertainty because there is is a decent amount of pressure on him. If Brock loses, well, he's inexperienced. Easy excuse. Mir's got pressure and its up to him to come ready. That's probly more important than whether Brock's chin is good or not, because Mir seems to be elevated to the ground game anyway.

That's how i interpreted the question.

[Forrest319]

With that thick ass neck I would imagine Brock will have at least a respectable chin. But some people don't like to get hit even if they can take a punch so we'll have to see how Brock reacts to getting smacked in the face.