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Old 05-13-2006, 11:46 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Warning!!! Vitamins And Minerals Cheaters!!!

Hello, I would like to warn you about Fight Wear company – VITAMINS AND MINERALS. In case someone has stupid idea like I had. 27-12-2005 I ordered GI APACHE and I transferred money on their account. Right on the beginning I had a problem. They don’t respect VISA credit card. Ok then, I went to Western Union – no problemo, just extra cash. I could do it for free but what the hell. If someone want to make his dream come true Ok, I waited 12-20 work days. The title on the main Site of V&M is: “Welcome to Vitamins & Minerals the undisputed leader in the mixed martial arts products industry”. Ok, “maybe” but know one knows that because I think no one recived anything from them, ever. Ok then, I wait, I wait…and wait. Oh yes I forgot, from about a year they got a SPECIAL SALE but don’t let get fool you. Just in case, I asked them about it and they said to me, to pay 160 dollars of normal price. The special sale has finished and they will change it right away, they said. If you send email, you will recive an answer or not, it’s all about luck. And if they do answer, it’s never full answer and you have to keep asking. Once, I recived tracking number but what an coincidence…they didn’t tell me where can I use it, even when I was asking them many times about more information. Once…I belive it was an accident in work, mr. RAFAEL ABI RAMIA – president of Vitamins and Minerals, made an terrifying mistake and respond my email from MSN Messenger account. I used email and…here we go, I got him. Once he showed on MSN, I started a conversation….ekhm,ekhm…excuse me. It was more a monolog then a conversation. He didn’t even react, maybe he didn’t even see me writing from couple hours, then he disconnected. After many many attempts and 3 months of waiting he said that package returned to them because the address wasn’t full. They told me to resend my full address and my order and they will send it again. And I don’t have to pay extra money for this – I didn’t know should I be happy or cry. I don’t have to tell that I did it many times before, but I just want to simplify this story ^^ . Ok then, full of hope in March, that this time will be successful I am still counting that maybe it one of the post offices fault, but which one??? Never mind that. Ok, I wait and wait…the same story about waiting. They stopped responding my e-mail from march. I found other tactic, I started to call them. I choose one of the telephone’s middleman because I didn’t wanted to spend millions on bills. But here comes new problems. They got phone number on www site. I choose the number, it wasn’t easy to call them. Finally, one day someone picked up the phone. It was some lady – nice voice…but what a pity…Portuguese voice. World wide famous company and they use only Portuguese language – nice job. But once again my hard will was useful. Thx god I speak a little bit of Portuguese too. It wasn’t easy to hear it, the quality of the sound wasn’t too good. But finally I didn’t know anything. After few days, re-motivated again: “ This time I will make it”….. “no, I won’t”….but I didn’t knew that yet. Many attempts again, money meter was turned on….but I made it. The same woman :/ she gave me the number to mr. RAFAEL ABI RAMIA. I am a naughty boy, how I dare to reprimand them. Ok, I call other number and guess what….NOTHING!!!! Finally, again someday someone pick up the phone….again nice lady’s voice and again…God Damn It….Portuguese!!!! MUAHAHAHA!!!! Only thing I knew was she can’t help me and Rafael Abi Ramia will be in his office in 3 hours. I call after 3 hours…automatic secretary I talked to her with a hope she would respond me. My psyche won’t be the same ever again. I call few more times and I made it again, again woman talking Portuguese…she told me to wait and she redirected me to another place. I was waiting 2 minutes and listening to some nice song so I didn’t complain. The most expensive song I ever heard ^^ . After 2 minutes the same lady picked up but only for 5 seconds…I think she clicked the button with her butt by accident. I think maybe mr. RAFAEL ABI RAMIA was Banging her HAHAHAHA!!!! Two more minutes…finally some man picked up the phone – WOW – and he had an ability to speak English…but only a little and don’t know why he preferred his national language. He didn’t react that my Portuguese is not too good and I told him that few times. But he encouraged me that it’s quite good – full of happiness I almost forgot about the GI(KIMONO). Suddenly I woke up and I told him I would like to speak with mr. RAFAEL ABI RAMIA. He said something quick but I think that I cant talk to him right now and he is busy. But I had a little success, he screamed something about me to RAFAEL and he screamed back, so at least I heard his voice. I was so happy man. I was one step to meet mr. RAMIA. What I was informed about, they don’t know nothing but they will check again next day and let me know. Right after the call I had to write next e-mail with of course…my address and order for the fifty-th time. Maybe they missed all this emails where I wrote the same. Ok I did it again and I was waiting for the answer. If someone think here, there is a big HAPPY END is wrong!!!....still nothing. Implores, threats…nothing helps. I keep calling them but I didn’t make it from 3 weeks, they don’t pick up the phones anymore. I wrote to an organization that helps people cheated in business like this. But they help people who were cheated by European companies and they gave me contact to one that helps all. But they never answered me, maybe they prepare a birthday surprise or something. I will keep trying. I wrote to one company which cooperate with V&M, but they said they don’t do that anymore because Vitamins and Minerals make’s it very hard. I forgot to mention that I spent some hours on looking for my GI on post offices. I was send from one to another….about six different post offices, some small and main posts. I have a copy of my WESTERN UNION transfer so I will keep it and some day on Brazil I will go to the shop for sure. I try to wrote this on every forum I find. I hope you people will think twice or more before buying on VITAMINS AND MINERALS CHEATERS site. I recived telephone bill yesterday. Last month 28 calls to Brazil and this month 43….nice one. I think V&M has got a new tactic in making business. There is a fight wear NO GI and and V&M got their own, new one “NO GI and NO MONEY”. MUAHAHA!!!!! Thank you for listening this happy story and I hope you do the right thing…NOT CHOOSING VITAMINS AND MINERALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 05-13-2006, 11:52 AM   #2 (permalink)

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that is a big paragraph phew
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Old 05-13-2006, 11:54 AM   #3 (permalink)

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You're going to have to paragraph that if you want anyone to read it. Sorry, but presentation matters.
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Old 05-13-2006, 11:55 AM   #4 (permalink)

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Buy Sprawl, great products and super fast delivery.
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Old 05-13-2006, 12:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
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True, they are great.
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Old 05-13-2006, 12:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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poor guy...never send anybody cash
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Old 05-13-2006, 12:15 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 05-13-2006, 12:16 PM   #8 (permalink)

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sorry couldn't read the whole thing, so what happened in the end, did this kid get his gi or money back?
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Old 05-13-2006, 12:17 PM   #9 (permalink)

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yeah man sorry to hear that,that sucks.That is one huge paragraph however.
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Old 05-13-2006, 12:17 PM   #10 (permalink)

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Thanks for the info, I was thinking in buying a V&M rashguard but now I wont.
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