Neither of these pair have thumbs to them. One has a thumb strap and one doesn't buther neither have thumbs to them. What'sl all this talk of thumbless gloves in a thread where neither glove have thumbs on them?
These are the gloves with the thumb.
neither of the above pair have one on the glove.
I've never had any problems with the ones with the thumb strap. The only time my finger have came out of the loops have been when some fucking grabby noob has tried to tear my gloves off, which has generally led to me giving them a good solid shot with a hammer fist and telling them "you take off my gloves and that'll be twice as hard, stop fucking grabbing them". Generally that causes them to stop the bullshit.