heavy bag weight

DavyC412 · 01-13-2006, 06:00 PM

hi, im thinking of setting up a heavy bag in my basement, but im unsure of what weight of bag i should get. im 6 foot 2, aprx 190lbs.

ill be using the bag for boxing work, rather than kickboxing or anything of the like.

thanks.

Foxx_MMA · 01-13-2006, 08:19 PM

How do you plan on hanging it, most stands have a max weight of 100-120 lbs i would say get AT LEAST 100 lb bag considering your size i am like 135-140 and i use a 70 lb bag and its a bit light

DavyC412 · 01-13-2006, 09:25 PM

i plan on haning it from the steel i-beams in my basement that support the 1st floor of my house, so the load capacity is not really an issue.

Foxx_MMA · 01-13-2006, 09:36 PM

IF your concerned with weight get an empty heavy bag and then you can vary the weight by filling it with different things IE different ratios of old rags and cloth vs heavier sand

DavyC412 · 11:01 PM

i was thinking about doing that actually, cause i realized the shipping on a filled bag would be insane, but im not entirely confident about filling the bag myself. i actually just found a post you made earlier explaining the operation:

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The way that seems the best to me though i have never tried it is to fill some heavy duty trash bags with sand making a ball surround that with cloth then put a piece of foam or carpet scrap on top then ball of sand surrounded with cloth and repeat. The foam keeps things in place and keeps it from settling. The problem if you fill with stright sand is a heavy bag would weight like 500 lbs. The sand core gives it a solid core and you wont need to round up 10 tons of rags.

how many sandballs would you make for a bag, i.e. how many layers should there be?

EDIT: also, about how thick should the layer of cloth be that surrounds each sandbag, and wont there be lots of airspace in the cloth surrounding the bag, making the bag really soft in general?

EDIT 2: What about water-filled? any good?

thanks.

mr_davil · 01-13-2006, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DavyC412

EDIT 2: What about water-filled? any good?

thanks.

I've never used a regular bag, but I have a Wavemaster XXL I got for cheap when Galyan's was "going out of business" (read: bought by dick's sporting goods), and I enjoy it, but I'm actually seriously considering a hanging bag. I enjoy the portability and non-mount requirement of the XXL, but I just recently started doing Bas' workout for boxing, and I find that even with the water base filled to the max, I'm getting more play than I'd prefer when striking, fists only. I'm also considering draining it and going for sand instead, but I haven't looked into that much yet.

Foxx_MMA · 01-14-2006, 12:23 AM

Ok first i have never really liked bags like a wavemaster when i used them at my friend's house it seemed the bag seemed to lack padding and the base kinda walked around. Check amazon for a good deal i managed to get my stand and my 70 bag thru them for under 200 bucks shipped, cause shipping is free that was the best deal i found anywhere, granted my heavy bag stand box looked like it was shipped from iraq and torn to pieces but the stand itself was perfectly fine.
Filling the bag isnt an exact science depending on the length and height of the bag things will vary around 4 layers would work and if you pack the cloth tight it shouldnt be too soft. My one bag is packed w. shreaded cloth and the bottom is rock solid if someone comes into my house shooting at me i figure i could use the bottom half of the bag as some sort of shield.

DavyC412 · 01-14-2006, 12:37 AM

ya, i think packing the bag myself is the way to go. its cheaper to buy, ship, and i can reajust the filling to whatever my needs become.

i got one more quesiton though. bag gloves. i was searching around, and it seems that everone has a different opinion of what is appropriate when hitting the bag. since im just starting out i figure bag gloves rather than training gloves would be the way to go, with handwraps of course, but im not sure of the volume (i suppose you could call it). ive seen 8,10,12,and 14 oz. gloves, but im not sure which would be appropriate for starting out.

any suggestions?

desertbake · 01-14-2006, 09:49 AM

I'm 6', 205 and my 100lb bag feels pretty good. I wouldn't mind having a heavier bag in addition to my 100lb, but I'm content with just the 100lber. If you're concerned about shipping check out 9thstreetgym.com (I think that's right) cause around Christmas time they had free shipping on all bags, so they might still have that.

datadog · 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DavyC412

EDIT 2: What about water-filled? any good?

As a bigger guy, a water filled might move too much for you. I'm 6'3", 275 (think 250 if you are lean and looking for a comparison... ) and use the one at my gym (was off to buy my own today till someone posted that 9th street gym link, OMG their prices rock).

Anywise, the water filled moves a lot, especially on straight rights and straight body shots. When the gym is near empty it actually works well as I circle around it pounding it back to the middle, but that's a pain when people are trying to use the hallway where I drag the bag to.

Just my experience, your mileage may vary...