Grip Traning Equipment. - Page 2

mvisit1 · 10-20-2009, 01:01 PM

If you're doing grip training for BJJ screw some expensive machine, train it like you're actually going to be doing it, gripping a gi...and what better resistance than your own body weight?

ManilaIce · 10-20-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mvisit1

If you're doing grip training for BJJ screw some expensive machine, train it like you're actually going to be doing it, gripping a gi...and what better resistance than your own body weight?

The CoC grippers don't really qualify as an expensive machine, and their resistance goes a bit higher than your own bodyweight (assuming you're of average weight, and not Bob Sapp). From what I hear, they're a great centerpiece of a grip routine.

Samxx21 · 10-20-2009, 07:21 PM

definatly agree

_kickboxer_ · 10-21-2009, 03:49 AM

need to get my hands on one of those CoC grip trainers!

**Urban** · 10-21-2009, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by FIGHTER1980

Heavy Hammer II Leverage Bar™-Ironmind Enterprises

Best tool for lower arms strength IMO. COC grippers, pinching, grip machine, thickbars, rolling thunder, etc... levering with a thick handle is the shit for lower arm development. PERIOD. easy to make too, all you need is a 1.5" steel pipe and a couple of collars and you're set.

as far as the original product is concerned, just get a 1.5"-2" manilla rope from the hardware store, and tie a loop on the end to attach it to a pulley system, or swing it over a pullup bar for pullups (or just use a towel or gi).

Grippers are really only good for getting better with grippers IMO and not really that much else. Thickbar work (I like the rolling thunder for this) and pinching (plate pinching, block pinching, or blockweight pinching), and the afformentioned levering are going to give you the greatest returns for athletic endeavors. and if you want to just add some extra work on your forearms, just wrap a towel around the bar on all your pulling movements to make it thicker.

As far as your bodyweight being the best way to train... are you serious? come to S&P, we'll set you right.

**Urban** · 10-21-2009, 04:05 AM

here, smashy's guide to levering: Lever Shot! - Smashy's illustrated guide to levering

mvisit1 · 10-21-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban

As far as your bodyweight being the best way to train... are you serious? come to S&P, we'll set you right.

Not for everything, just for grip. If I find my forearms gassing while grappling (which I haven't), I'll do pull ups gripping a gi top a couple of times a week, I don't need to go out and buy 4 different gadgets. I'd rather focus on my BJJ technique so that I don't need forearms of steel to keep control of somebody...

Then I'll have more money to buy gi's and gloves! You can never have enough of those...

Samxx21 · 10-21-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban

Best tool for lower arms strength IMO. COC grippers, pinching, grip machine, thickbars, rolling thunder, etc... levering with a thick handle is the shit for lower arm development. PERIOD. easy to make too, all you need is a 1.5" steel pipe and a couple of collars and you're set.

as far as the original product is concerned, just get a 1.5"-2" manilla rope from the hardware store, and tie a loop on the end to attach it to a pulley system, or swing it over a pullup bar for pullups (or just use a towel or gi).

Grippers are really only good for getting better with grippers IMO and not really that much else. Thickbar work (I like the rolling thunder for this) and pinching (plate pinching, block pinching, or blockweight pinching), and the afformentioned levering are going to give you the greatest returns for athletic endeavors. and if you want to just add some extra work on your forearms, just wrap a towel around the bar on all your pulling movements to make it thicker.

As far as your bodyweight being the best way to train... are you serious? come to S&P, we'll set you right.

Btw wat is S&P?
thanks for your awsome input...for levering, theres this awsme invention called a sledgehammer which is also a good idea!

**Urban** · 10-21-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mvisit1

Not for everything, just for grip. If I find my forearms gassing while grappling (which I haven't), I'll do pull ups gripping a gi top a couple of times a week, I don't need to go out and buy 4 different gadgets. I'd rather focus on my BJJ technique so that I don't need forearms of steel to keep control of somebody..,

Meeting the bare minimums of necessity is a sure way to maintain mediocrity. you don't NEED a 500lb deadlift but I bet that kind of strength would be usefull on the mat. Nor do you NEED a beartrap grip or rock solid wrists, but I bet if you had it, you'd think it was pretty nice.

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Originally Posted by Samxx21

Btw wat is S&P?
thanks for your awsome input...for levering, theres this awsme invention called a sledgehammer which is also a good idea!

S&P = strength and power. it's the forum a few clicks north of here.

and a sledge is fine and good but has a non-linear increase in difficulty as you move down the handle to increase torque on your wrist. What I mean is, moving from 10 inches to 11 inches away from the head may increase the difficulty half as much as moving from 16 inches to 17 inches away from the head. been a while since I took a physics class, but I hope that still made SOME sense.

the advantages to a lever (which for even mvisit can afford to make for like 10 bucks) is that you can adjust the weight (allowing for near linear increases in difficulty) and use a thicker handle (better mimicking your opponents limb). make your own lever:
- go the hardware store and buy a small piece of 2" abs or PVC pipe (you only need a few inches but you probably won't be able to find less than a foot at a time. ask for scraps from the back if they have any from previous cuts), buy two hose clamps that fit around the 2" pip and buy a 18 inch long piece of 1.5" galvanized pipe.

- now make two collars out of the ABS pipe as such

by cutting a small 3/4" wide strip out of a 1-2" length of ABS or PVC pipe, That collar is a little wide (it was the first one I ever made) now I really only make them a bit wider than the hose clamp.

- Tighten one collar down about 6" from one end of the galvanized pipe. these 6" are where you will load olympic plates and pin them in place with your other hose clamp collar

there, for ten bucks (less than the cost of any part of a gi or set of gloves) you have a levering bar with a foot long, 2" thick handle that is plate loadable. I recommend side to side levering with your forearm supported on something (over a bench, on your knee as you're seated, whatever), and finding some 1.25lb plates to increase the weight in small increments.

mvisit1 · 10-22-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban

Meeting the bare minimums of necessity is a sure way to maintain mediocrity. you don't NEED a 500lb deadlift but I bet that kind of strength would be usefull on the mat. Nor do you NEED a beartrap grip or rock solid wrists, but I bet if you had it, you'd think it was pretty nice.

I would have agreed with you 3 years ago when I first got into Muay Thai and MMA. Once I started getting heavy into BJJ, the gi, and embraced the ideal of technique and leverage vs. strength, I kind of got away from that RAWWWWWRRRRRRRR POWERLIFTING!!!!!!!!!