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10-31-2009, 11:06 AM
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What do you guys look for in a recovery supplement?
Sherdoggers,
I am just writing in here to find out what serious mma athletes look for in a recovery supplement. It seems most of the supplements on the market are more geared towards bodybuilding and frankly many of them are designed by guys who are just out to make a buck and whom do not put a lot of thought into the product or ask people what they are looking for.
My company is looking to put together a post workout mix to aid in recovery. Every single ingredient will have synergy and scientific backing that shows support for faster recovery from workout to workout. The supplement will also be guaranteed to be approved by the NCAA and all other sports organizations. I just wanted to get an idea of what mma athletes are looking for. Just a quick bit about myself I actually played division 1 college football and I also began training at a H. Gracie school here in Florida in the past year.
1) One of the things we are really interested in is whether athletes want creatine incorporated into this. The science is overwhelming for this ingredient that has been out for years now and it aids in just about every facet of the game but there seems to be a negative connotation about it in the sports world amongst some and we have no idea why but we wanted to check with everyone here.
2) What supplements do you currently take after a long workout to aid in recovery?
3) Is there anything that you would want added to the mix that you feel is absolutely essential?
I know I am just asking to get flamed here by some and I understand that is basically unavoidable but we are really making an effort to reach out to all sports demographics and find out what you want.
Thanks!
Athletix
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10-31-2009, 12:22 PM
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i only take whey protein after a long workout
an arianny celeste mini poster isn't essential but it would be nice
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Originally Posted by Athletix
2) What supplements do you currently take after a long workout to aid in recovery?
3) Is there anything that you would want added to the mix that you feel is absolutely essential?
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10-31-2009, 12:30 PM
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1. creatine is not needed, I dont think supplements should add creatine to other products. If they want creatine, they can add it in themselves.
2. real food and a healthy diet/lifestyle does better than any supplements would
3. fish oil, multi vit., protein powder are as far as I go with supps.
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10-31-2009, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by junkyard dog
1. creatine is not needed, I dont think supplements should add creatine to other products. If they want creatine, they can add it in themselves.
2. real food and a healthy diet/lifestyle does better than any supplements would
3. fish oil, multi vit., protein powder are as far as I go with supps.
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Thanks for the feedback. I agree with you on 2 trust me. But of course there are some people who want the extra push directly following an intense workout.
I did notice there were people who did not want creatine which is a good thing I asked I guess, interested to see how others respond as well.
DHA/EPA is great following workouts for its anti-inflammatory effects. I am pursuing a doctorate now and it is amazing to me how many athletes overuse NSAID's. Fish oil is a great alternative and helps to keep triglycerides low and promote overall health. We are looking to add enough protein to aid in recovery into the mix without overdoing it. I think some people use too much protein post workout as well.
Thanks again  .
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10-31-2009, 02:15 PM
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What is defined as "too much" protein?
And, some people respond to creatine supplementation, some don't. Get some creatine monohydrate and find out for yourself.
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10-31-2009, 02:28 PM
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These market research threads never end well.
Edit for content...
1.) I'm not big on "all in one" type products, I can get my creatine, ba's, and whatever else elsewhere. It's not that I'm anti creatine, I'm just anti "all in one."
2.) 3:1 carb:whey and flavor is about the only thing I'd want, and even then I'd use it as a MRS when I couldn't get a meal in.
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Last edited by XMoker; 10-31-2009 at 03:09 PM.
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10-31-2009, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by junkyard dog
1. creatine is not needed, I dont think supplements should add creatine to other products. If they want creatine, they can add it in themselves.
2. real food and a healthy diet/lifestyle does better than any supplements would
3. fish oil, multi vit., protein powder are as far as I go with supps.
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You know, I'm not really sure what the point is to making a post like this, but it pretty much adds nothing but angst to a thread. For one thing, there's nothing wrong with adding creatine to other free-form aminos so long as the absorption issue isn't a factor, and it's not used as means of price-gouging.
Your second point is isn't exactly correct either. There are things considered "supplements" that are far more efficient in a post-workout time window than actual food. So there was no real need to throw the idealogical point of view out there. Especially considering that it's not necessarily a blanket truth considering the environment you're posting it in. This idea proposed by the thread-starter doesn't sound like it's aimed at people who do not live a healthy lifestyle or eat real food.
Lastly, while your "supps" are a good foundation, when it comes to most competing athletes, or even just other people in general, there may be circumstances that dictate a need for other things. It's a bit silly blindly assume the needs of many, and thus, perpetuate detrimental supplement dogma without context.
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10-31-2009, 02:49 PM
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I take whey protein and creatine.. but i take less than recommended... MOST will try to make you take more than needed to finish the bottle quicker and buy more...Simple sales technique
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10-31-2009, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Sinister
You know, I'm not really sure what the point is to making a post like this, but it pretty much adds nothing but angst to a thread. For one thing, there's nothing wrong with adding creatine to other free-form aminos so long as the absorption issue isn't a factor, and it's not used as means of price-gouging.
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Thank you for the continuing feedback. I wasn't aware that there were a lot of market research threads that went through here that didn't end well or I would have refrained but this is good feedback thus far.
We aren't looking to price gouge at all honestly. We have very low overhead and we want to make a solid product that caters towards athletes. We have worked in the supplement industry for a while and most products are catered towards bodybuilders. I agree that creatine holds only benefits to a supplement aimed at recovery.
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10-31-2009, 08:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by junkyard dog
1. creatine is not needed, I dont think supplements should add creatine to other products. If they want creatine, they can add it in themselves.
2. real food and a healthy diet/lifestyle does better than any supplements would
3. fish oil, multi vit., protein powder are as far as I go with supps.
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You know, I'm not really sure what the point is to making a post like this, but it pretty much adds nothing but angst to a thread. For one thing, there's nothing wrong with adding creatine to other free-form aminos so long as the absorption issue isn't a factor, and it's not used as means of price-gouging.
Your second point is isn't exactly correct either. There are things considered "supplements" that are far more efficient in a post-workout time window than actual food. So there was no real need to throw the idealogical point of view out there. Especially considering that it's not necessarily a blanket truth considering the environment you're posting it in. This idea proposed by the thread-starter doesn't sound like it's aimed at people who do not live a healthy lifestyle or eat real food.
Lastly, while your "supps" are a good foundation, when it comes to most competing athletes, or even just other people in general, there may be circumstances that dictate a need for other things. It's a bit silly blindly assume the needs of many, and thus, perpetuate detrimental supplement dogma without context.
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I was just throwing my opinion out there when I answered the questions.
I did not know there was a right or wrong answer when it came to opinions
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