[TopCat]

Originally Posted by paolo27th

A few points:
1- I thought we were talking about Acetic Acid, which is contained in vinegar of any form shape and colour. Why suddenly everyone talks as if apple cider vinegar is the only way forward?
2- Why people wonder whether to take it before or after a meal? This is FOOD. Why shouldn't it be part of your meal (on your salad/veggies/meat). Seriously it's like asking "should I have pasta before or after my meal?"
3- Ok, just an idea for those who still want to take it in shots. How about adding some sugar? I dunno about this tho.
4- And any more feeback from those that have been using it for some time?

1) Most people refer to ACV because it is viewed as the most palatable choice for shots. I personally shoot whatever kind of vinegar is on hand. Gets me great looks in public.

2) Dunno. Many people are foolish.

3) I once added several ounces to diet cherry coke, which tastes like something obnoxious and leaves a horrible aftertaste. The ACV made it taste leagues better. Then I added too much ACV in and it started to hurt. Right, I'm not too brainy.

4) I have not really noticed any beneficial effects due to its usage other than the heat sensation and elimination of bad aftertastes of other foods/products. However, I must state that I have not monitored myself to specifically observe the effects of additional vinegar supplementation.

[MikeMartial]

Originally Posted by paolo27th

A few points:
1- I thought we were talking about Acetic Acid, which is contained in vinegar of any form shape and colour. Why suddenly everyone talks as if apple cider vinegar is the only way forward?

It probably doesn't matter at at, since the study isolated acetic acid. ACV, like TopCat said, is just more palatable. There's opinions that ACV actually has a negative PRAL versus regular white vinegar having a positive PRAL, but in the amounts used in a daily diet, I think the point is moot.

Originally Posted by paolo27th

2- Why people wonder whether to take it before or after a meal? This is FOOD. Why shouldn't it be part of your meal (on your salad/veggies/meat). Seriously it's like asking "should I have pasta before or after my meal?"

The most obvious timing would be PWO, since it is all about glycogen repletion. I would have thought this would be an obvious answer.

Originally Posted by paolo27th

3- Ok, just an idea for those who still want to take it in shots. How about adding some sugar? I dunno about this tho.

Why? If it's in your PWO shake, then there's plenty of carbs (or should be) in there already.

Originally Posted by paolo27th

4- And any more feeback from those that have been using it for some time?

It's a staple in my PWO shakes. It's not a miracle supplement, but none are. But based on the science at hand, I see no reason not to add it in.

[TopCat]

Originally Posted by MikeMartial

The most obvious timing would be PWO, since it is all about glycogen repletion. I would have thought this would be an obvious answer.

Mike, I'm pretty sure he was referring to taking it with or without food, independent of the time of day. That's how I read it, at least.

[MikeMartial]

Originally Posted by TopCat

Mike, I'm pretty sure he was referring to taking it with or without food, independent of the time of day. That's how I read it, at least.

Ah, perhaps. I may have just misread that.

[MikeMartial]

Scott from The Modern Forager just posted an article on ACV here.

In his article, he cites a study of vinegar improving insulin sensitivity. (study can be found here) Looks like the same mechanism is at work here as with the initial study Madmick posted.

[John Lambert]

Originally Posted by Tucker Smith

Any suggestions on a way to make it more palatable? maybe i should mix it with my chocolate whey protein...

You could measure it out and mix it in with your PWO shake (make sure you put your milk or water in first... you don't want a glob of ACV protein on your tongue). Way that I find works best for me is a shot glass and chase it with the shake.

[John Lambert]

Originally Posted by Tucker Smith

Any suggestions on a way to make it more palatable? maybe i should mix it with my chocolate whey protein...

You could measure it out and mix it in with your PWO shake (make sure you put your milk or water in first... you don't want a glob of ACV protein on your tongue). Way that I find works best for me is a shot glass and chase it with the shake.

[John Lambert]

Originally Posted by Tucker Smith

Any suggestions on a way to make it more palatable? maybe i should mix it with my chocolate whey protein...

You could measure it out and mix it in with your PWO shake (make sure you put your milk or water in first... you don't want a glob of ACV protein on your tongue). Way that I find works best for me is a shot glass and chase it with the shake.

[Revok]

I mix it 1:3 with water and drink it first thing PWO. It's fairly awful at first but it does get better with time, to the point where now I rather enjoy it.

[anaconda]

Originally Posted by Revok

I mix it 1:3 with water and drink it first thing PWO. It's fairly awful at first but it does get better with time, to the point where now I rather enjoy it.

And have you (or anyone for that matter) had any noticeable changes?

I mean with the top supps, you can notice a difference - fish oil, BA, creatine, etc.

So for those who have been taking this for a while, anything good happening?