[AkaiJiisu]

have those of you who have dabbled in thermogenics noticed your wind is missing when you're on them?

I feel jittery but gas a lot quicker, is this common or is it psychosomatic?

[LCDforMe]

I noticed this, too.

[Breakzilla]

What do you mean by wind missing exactly? I'd say I was a bit jittery the first week maybe, but after that I notice no side effects other than some extra energy and fat loss. I'm taking 2 hot-rox extreme twice a day. The energy pump is def a plus.

[Foppa21]

The hot-rox pumps me up. But it also makes me angry I find. I just seem to have a shorter fuse

[flashNsmash]

I don't find my cardio suffers at all.

[heritagemma]

cardio is fine.

[Jake Martin]

I think what you find is that your intensity is increasing, so you can't go quite as long. You're so ramped up that you don't notice you're pushing the pace, so it seems like your cardio has gotten worse.

That, or it makes you so tense you're actually using more energy than usual.

[Breakzilla]

Originally Posted by Shotokan777

I think what you find is that your intensity is increasing, so you can't go quite as long. You're so ramped up that you don't notice you're pushing the pace, so it seems like your cardio has gotten worse.

That sounds about right to me. But somehow it works out due to the extra pump.

[Soid]

What brand do you guys use?

[LCDforMe]

I have used Lipo6 and Cytolean in the past. I just got some Animal Cuts for very cheap so we'll see how that shit works later today.