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Originally Posted by Madmick
I asked you about this in another thread that got buried, but I figured Spike is of great enough interest it warrants it's own thread.
I saw you recommended it in your "Insane" cycle. But I don't understand why?
These are the listed ingredients:
SPIKE Formula, 473mg
Biotest® GBX [guarana-berry extract (containing theophylline and caffeine)], T-MAX™ [Biotest® proprietary thiamine di(2-methylpropionate) disulfide], natural caffeine, yohimbine HCl
Do you just like that it includes caffeine and yohimbine in one pill? Do you consider Yohimbine HCl that effective?
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Well Mick, to be honest with you, I might consider revising that protocol. You see, I ordered some Spike last week, and I tried it a couple of days ago. It was the first time I had used it in the "hard ****llic" pill form. Previously, Spike was in a softgel, using Biotest's "nano-dispersion gel" technology that they talked about incessantly. I really don't react as well to the new form.
Nonetheless, I still like it on paper. The caffeine and yohimbine have little to do with that. On paper, salbutiamine (the thiamin analogue) is a great nootropic. Papers by Tiev and Balzamo (you have to know French) demonstrate salbutiamine to be effective in reducing stress-induced fatigue at dose of 400 and 600mg This appears to be significantly less than a standard dose of Spike, although Spike contains other stimulants as well. The latter paper was based on EEGs in non-human primates. This paper is less conclusive for me, as the n is very small, it is cross-species, and the dosage is ungodly (100mg/kg). There are other papers that demonstrate salbutiamine as an effective nootropic/CNS stimulant in disease state clinical trials.
Anyhow, I have read enough about this compound to approve of it. However, I am not as confident with the new formula.
~Terumo
