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Old 06-18-2007, 10:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Icon13 Taking a break from ZMA: bad dreams

Has anyone else had this? I decided to take a week off from ZMA after taking it consistently for a month. The last time I did this I was camping and drinking, so didn't really remember my dreams. But this time....the dreams were even more vivid and detailed than when I first started taking ZMA.

Usually the ZMA dreams are benign. Never waking up screaming in terror with a raging hard-on (like some people around here). But the "break from ZMA" dreams have been vivid and have dealt with real life issues, but in a worst case scenario.

Anyone else had this?
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No, not from ZMA. But i don't take it regularly enough. Only after especially hard training days.

Melatonin, however messes with my head. The last time i took it I was a machine gunner during WWI mowing down the enemy. I don't know which side i was on though. But i still have that image in my head.
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ya, i took melatonin last night. It's a weird chemical. My conscious brain keeps trying to wake up, but my body is still asleep. It's really weird, like I'm drowning in sleep or something. I'll even open my eyes and see the room, but will be asleep at the same time. Maybe it's just a dream though, giving the illusion of being awake.
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Usually the ZMA dreams are benign. Never waking up screaming in terror with a raging hard-on (like some people around here). But the "break from ZMA" dreams have been vivid and have dealt with real life issues, but in a worst case scenario.

Anyone else had this?
Vivid? Yes. Very f-ing weird? Yes. Emotionally disturbing, and bothering me throughout the day enough so I would quit taking ZMA? No.

I can understand how they (the dreams) might, though. I had a very bizarre dream last night that involved my wife dying while skiing in the mountains. I woke up thinking "Jesus, that's not very cool".

Dreams are just a way for the mind to vent all the emotional and/or repetitive crap that goes through it on a regular basis; in this case, my wife is leaving on a conference tommorow, and I just worry when she travels, so it makes sense I'd dream about what I did.

ZMA just "amplifies" normal dreams, IMO. Either that or I'm messed up and regularly dream psychotic shit, which could easily be the case.
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I can understand how they (the dreams) might, though. I had a very bizarre dream last night that involved my wife dying while skiing in the mountains. I woke up thinking "Jesus, that's not very cool".

Dreams are just a way for the mind to vent all the emotional and/or repetitive crap that goes through it on a regular basis; in this case, my wife is leaving on a conference tommorow, and I just worry when she travels, so it makes sense I'd dream about what I did.

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The freaky-deaky dreams are occurring when I don't take ZMA. On ZMA I dream that I'm a viking and other cool shit like that. The first few nights during a week of not taking it, I have some weird ass dreams.

But not about current events, really old stuff. Like, 10 years ago.
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I can say in my opinion thats kinda scary and makes me think. How safe is it if it messes with you like that. I get heavy dreams when I eat alot before I sleep and thats not a concern. But if this shit messes with you even when you dont take it that might be a sign of your body wanting it like an addiction. It would be nice to see a study or words from the company about it. Is there a warning, may cause intense dreaming.
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I still haven't figured out how everyone is taking ZMA (take on empty stomach, don't take with dairy) when, right before bed, they're eating cottage cheese or a casein shake.
Unless nobody is following the directions?
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The freaky-deaky dreams are occurring when I don't take ZMA. On ZMA I dream that I'm a viking and other cool shit like that. The first few nights during a week of not taking it, I have some weird ass dreams.

But not about current events, really old stuff. Like, 10 years ago.
Ahh, I gotcha. I misunderstood, and thought it was WHILE you were taking ZMA. Weird dreams off? Never heard of that. It could easily be blamed on melatonin, if you've replaced your ZMA with that. If you are "sleeping clean" and still having bizarrio dreams, I'd say you have some repressed issues.

Perhaps you need to have a session with KK. I think he studies psychology as a hobby.
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