Soy bad for males finally acknowledged!

Darph · 07-25-2008, 02:07 PM

BBC NEWS | Health | Soy foods 'reduce sperm numbers'

N-do · 07-25-2008, 02:35 PM

If moderate soy consumption really had such a dramatic effect on sperm production, would they really need a one child policy in China?

Asians eat alot of soy, and if population statistics are anything to go by, they don't seem to have any trouble reproducing.

Analyzing the diet of 99 men is not exactly a definitve study.

I don't even eat soy, but this article comes across more as a propganda piece than anything substantive.

Fight_Song · 07-25-2008, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N-do

If moderate soy consumption really had such a dramatic effect on sperm production, would they really need a one child policy in China?

Asians eat alot of soy, and if population statistics are anything to go by, they don't seem to have any trouble reproducing.

Analyzing the diet of 99 men is not exactly a definitve study.

I don't even eat soy, but this article comes across more as a propganda piece than anything substantive.

Bold.

I was reading in TIME (I think it was) about the Chinese Olympic medal-hunting program for this year and in the article, the heads of the program were quoted as saying the Chinese/Asian body is not naturally strong like others (but able to tolerate more work/training than others).

I'm not here to argue that Asians are genetically weak, he said that. I'm just noting that statement plus the fast that soy is huge in an Asian diet, and possibly related?

Not to say there aren't athletic and strong and etc Asians. Again, I'm just paraphrasing.

N-do · 07-25-2008, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fight_Song

Bold.

I was reading in TIME (I think it was) about the Chinese Olympic medal-hunting program for this year and in the article, the heads of the program were quoted as saying the Chinese/Asian body is not naturally strong like others (but able to tolerate more work/training than others).

I'm not here to argue that Asians are genetically weak, he said that. I'm just noting that statement plus the fast that soy is huge in an Asian diet, and possibly related?

Not to say there aren't athletic and strong and etc Asians. Again, I'm just paraphrasing.

I'm just talking sperm count here, not body composition

vegan · 07-25-2008, 03:36 PM

I save alot on not bying condoms. how is that bad?

ajcrewmisfit · 07-25-2008, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fight_Song

Bold.

I was reading in TIME (I think it was) about the Chinese Olympic medal-hunting program for this year and in the article, the heads of the program were quoted as saying the Chinese/Asian body is not naturally strong like others (but able to tolerate more work/training than others).

I'm not here to argue that Asians are genetically weak, he said that. I'm just noting that statement plus the fast that soy is huge in an Asian diet, and possibly related?

Not to say there aren't athletic and strong and etc Asians. Again, I'm just paraphrasing.

you obviously hate asians!

no seriously... kinda interesting. if it was CNN we'd all be seeing it as a joke though lol

arctic82 · 07-25-2008, 05:43 PM

I've been under the impression that the consuption of soy in asia is really over blown. I think that the average western people with average diet eat more soy not knowing it than the chinese or japanese do.

ozzie · 07-25-2008, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N-do

If moderate soy consumption really had such a dramatic effect on sperm production, would they really need a one child policy in China?

Asians eat alot of soy, and if population statistics are anything to go by, they don't seem to have any trouble reproducing.

Analyzing the diet of 99 men is not exactly a definitve study.

I don't even eat soy, but this article comes across more as a propganda piece than anything substantive.

I read recently that they don't eat a lot of soy.

Never_Back_Down · 07-25-2008, 07:37 PM

I hear Mountain Dew has the same effect

but then again, it could be rumors

Darph · 07-25-2008, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N-do

If moderate soy consumption really had such a dramatic effect on sperm production, would they really need a one child policy in China?

Asians eat alot of soy, and if population statistics are anything to go by, they don't seem to have any trouble reproducing.

Analyzing the diet of 99 men is not exactly a definitve study.

I don't even eat soy, but this article comes across more as a propganda piece than anything substantive.

It's possible that asians have been eating soy for thousands of years and it doesnt have the same effect on them.