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04-07-2008, 11:29 PM
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Sleep Aids/Dreaming
Hi all, i've searched through a few of the threads in the past about sleep aids and such but wanted to create a new one which combines various supplements and what the benefits are of them all. Anyways, I want to get better, deeper sleep in which I dream more and want to know which supplements I should use. I have heard melatonin, valerian, ZMA, and GABA. What I want is actually a powerful effect that I guess puts me out cold after working out or a hard day but does not leave me messed up in the morning when I wake up. I have tried Tylenol PM these past 2 nights and have had great sleep and a crazy dream where I was killing cylons in battlestar galactica, but I woke up all lethargic and groggy. What are the differences between ZMA and GABA and which is better, also which should I get between melatonin or valerian (or both?) Any tips would be great, thanks all!
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04-07-2008, 11:39 PM
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I take GABA & ZMA & so far I'm pretty impressed with the results. My sleep time is limited due to my crazy work schedule, but I seem to get a lot more QUALITY sleep now. I take a scoop (roughly 5 gms) of GABA & the recommended serving of ZMA (3 pills with the brand I have.) I wasn't too impressed with melatonin in the past, and never tried Valerian. Good luck
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04-07-2008, 11:40 PM
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I too have badass dreams when doing any type of drowsy cold medication. And I too generally do not wake up the greatest if not timed properly.
Never tried any real sleep aide...
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04-07-2008, 11:48 PM
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Hey, have you noticed any changes in dreams or having more dreams when in these supplements? Also, is GABA safe and something that I should take if I don't life weights?
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04-07-2008, 11:52 PM
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Sweet, I want to have BSG dreams. Preferably me, number six, and a change in sheets in the morning...
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04-07-2008, 11:52 PM
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I'm a bona fide insomniac.
I've tried valerian in the past, and I didn't notice any benefit to my sleep. There is a mild relaxation effect, but nothing to write home to the sandman about. Plus valerian smells kind of like stinky feet. Even in caplet form.
With melatonin alone, I've noticed nothing. But when I stack it with other sleep aids, it seems to get the job done. Definitely increases the quality and "depth" of sleep.
I haven't tried GABA yet, but I hear really good things and I'm going to look into it.
I actually haven't heard much about ZMA as a sleep aid per se ... more of a testosterone-boosting supplement that you take before bed. But if anyone has any info, I'd appreciate a link.
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04-07-2008, 11:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zero_Sen
I haven't tried GABA yet, but I hear really good things and I'm going to look into it.
I actually haven't heard much about ZMA as a sleep aid per se ... more of a testosterone-boosting supplement that you take before bed. But if anyone has any info, I'd appreciate a link.
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I've no links, but I'm told the magnesium is what actually causes the muscle relaxation and 'sleepy' effects.
I'm interested in GABA, but for now I'm going to partake in some of this actual 'sleep' stuff we're all so excited for.
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04-08-2008, 12:19 AM
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ZMA + GABA is my gold standard stack.
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04-08-2008, 12:25 AM
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Mike, does the ZMA+GABA relax you a little or put you out cold?
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04-08-2008, 12:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeMartial
ZMA + GABA is my gold standard stack.
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I think I'll try some of that. I'm going on 89 hours right now. :o Crazy, huh?
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