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Old 10-05-2008, 03:57 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Fastest/slowest non whey/caesin?

I have a few questions.

Whats the fastest and slowest acting non whey and caesin protein powder/food/source? Im trying to avoid all dairy products for those of you wondering.

Whats the difference between a pre-workout shake and a post-workout shake? I currently use the same formula for both my pre and post workout shakes. .4g per kg of protein and .8g of carbs per kg. I use egg protein powder for protein and oats/quinoa for carbs.

Is eggwhite protein powder cooked? I heard that eating raw eggs lower biotin levels in the body.

Morning and before bed shakes both involve slowing acting proteins right? Do they use the same formula? Whats a good formula for a morning/before bed shake?

Quinoa is a perfect protein source(or so I read). Is it wise to substitute oats with quinoa? I see no point in using oats when I can use quinoa.

Is it true that the body can only absorb 50g of protein at once?
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Old 10-05-2008, 10:01 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Morning, before breakfast, you need a fast-acting protein source to break your overnight fasted state. Follow up with a slow-acting protein source shortly thereafter with breakfast.

30min Pre-workout shake should be a nootropic. No protein/carbs necessary.

During your workout, you should be maintaining blood sugar levels, amino acid levels, and BCAA levels, for various reasons. I use high GI carb, EAAs, and BCAAs peri-workout.

Post-workout, I use whole food, since most of the studies I've read show that fast-acting amino acid uptake curves taper off quickly, and slow-acting amino acid curves, while less anabolic at peak, last longer. I usually chug the remainder of my peri-workout WMS+EAA shake, followed shortly thereafter (20 mins or so) with whole food.

Before bed: slow-acting protein shake to keep your body supplied with amino acids while sleeping.
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Old 10-05-2008, 10:06 AM   #3 (permalink)

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Addendum: Don't ever drink a 2:1 WMS+EAA shake if your willpower isn't tough as nails (like mine). That shit will ruin your week. Tastes like freshly squeezed dumpster juice. Go for something like 1:1:1 maltodextrin:dextrose:hydrolysate.
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