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Old 12-12-2005, 01:27 PM   #11 (permalink)

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I don't know if anyone else is getting this, but whereas before, I would just get hungry. Now I know exactly what I'm hungry for, and why. If I skip eating something after I lift, for instance, I crave meat. After I swim, bike, or run, I can't wait to crush a giant salad. Really, I'd prefer a bigass hamburger, but the salad will do until I drop enough weight (and cease to crave thick, juicy, steamy hamburgers all the time).
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:03 PM   #12 (permalink)

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My old diet consisted of whatever I wanted to eat. This included Mcdonalds, Whataburger, or whatever, whenever i felt like it. I would eat fast food almost everyday. My diet is very healthy right now. But the funny thing is, I don't feel any different. I'm still always tired like I used to be, and other than losing weight, which is the whole reason why I eat good now, i haven't felt any different. Honestly, it kind of pisses me off.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:08 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Nothing will turn you into a fat fuck like being active duty military.
I don't know how it is in the Army but in the Marine Corps you can be kicked out for being a fat fuck. There is however some really weak bastards who could careless about being in shape in some of the non-infantry units.
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Old 12-12-2005, 04:39 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Really, I'd prefer a bigass hamburger, but the salad will do until I drop enough weight (and cease to crave thick, juicy, steamy hamburgers all the time).
I just happen to have a compromise for you:

Thick Juicy Steamy (wait, is this porn?) Hamburger without the guilt:

1/4 lb of 99% lean ground beef
Desired seasonings (I usually use a touch of steak sauce and a dash of pepper)
Whole Wheat Bun
1/4 or 1/2 cup of mixed vegetables (such ass bell peppers, red onions, etc.)

Sautee the vegetables and cook the meat either on open-flame, in the broiler, or on the Foreman grill, but in a way that's lean without a lot of oil, focusing more on the taste of the meat. Might take a bit longer because proper meat prep needs more time unless you're drenching it in oil or some other garbage. Once it's done to your preference, the meat should be pretty well-seasoned and you got your wheat bun, top with the sauteed veggies and I guarantee you won't even miss the cheese.

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My old diet consisted of whatever I wanted to eat. This included Mcdonalds, Whataburger, or whatever, whenever i felt like it. I would eat fast food almost everyday. My diet is very healthy right now. But the funny thing is, I don't feel any different. I'm still always tired like I used to be, and other than losing weight, which is the whole reason why I eat good now, i haven't felt any different. Honestly, it kind of pisses me off.
For this to be true my wager would be either something is off on your supplementing or your rest cycles suck. If you're eating better your energy should be through the roof by comparison.
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Old 12-12-2005, 10:05 PM   #15 (permalink)

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In the spring right after this past wrestling season I weighed about 190. I was in ok shape, but thoguht to myself "I can get stronger, maybe get down to 170."

Here I am at 160.0 pounds per the scale this morning, stronger than I've ever been in my life and it's just completely changed me. I've got more confidence in myself and my abilities. I owe a lot ot the strength and power forum and this forum too.

Still no luck with the ladies though!
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Old 12-13-2005, 03:59 PM   #16 (permalink)

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I just happen to have a compromise for you:

Thick Juicy Steamy (wait, is this porn?) Hamburger without the guilt:

1/4 lb of 99% lean ground beef
Desired seasonings (I usually use a touch of steak sauce and a dash of pepper)
Whole Wheat Bun
1/4 or 1/2 cup of mixed vegetables (such ass bell peppers, red onions, etc.)

Sautee the vegetables and cook the meat either on open-flame, in the broiler, or on the Foreman grill, but in a way that's lean without a lot of oil, focusing more on the taste of the meat. Might take a bit longer because proper meat prep needs more time unless you're drenching it in oil or some other garbage. Once it's done to your preference, the meat should be pretty well-seasoned and you got your wheat bun, top with the sauteed veggies and I guarantee you won't even miss the cheese.



For this to be true my wager would be either something is off on your supplementing or your rest cycles suck. If you're eating better your energy should be through the roof by comparison.
I will admit that i probably don't get enough sleep. But even when I do, and I make it a point to get plenty of sleep, i am still tired before 4:00 PM, even if i woke up refreshed. My diet is pretty simple. I eat either cereal, eggwhites, or oatmeal for breakfast, and for the other meals I eat either chicken breast, turkey, or subway, and sometimes eggs. I also eat fruit with at least 1 meal. and I drink a lot of water. I usually eat 1 cheat meal a week. I've had so many people ask me if I feel better now that I eat good, and i honestly can't say i feel different, not even a little bit. I went to the doctor about being tired all the time, and he said he couldn't find anything initially wrong with me and that I would need to go to a sleep specialist and have them perform sleep tests on him, but with college and work i haven't had time to do any of that shit. I'm nt currently taking a multivitamin though, do you think that could be the problem.

I guess since I'm posting this in the diet forum, i might as well ask another question in this post. I have optimum whey protein, and i have a jug of muscle milk. Im trying to lose weight, and i go to boxing or BJJ at 6:30 every night. When, and how should I use the supplements since I'm not really lifting weights, just running and bodyweight excercises.
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:40 PM   #17 (permalink)

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Being 16 and 257, I was a joke. I was in terrible shape. Regardless of my apperance, I have always been good at sports. When I played basketball, I scored 15-20 pts a game on average. When I played football, I was by far the the best blocker out on the field yet my lack of overall fitness was something embarassing. I have a natrual ability to adapt and perform in a sports setting yet I looked and felt like shit.

Now that I will be turning 17 (on the 29th for those who want to get me something, lol) I am weighing about 205 or so and I feel a lot better. I have started BJJ and my lifting is no longer geared to lifting for stats (ie bench 300 or whatever the goal may be) and it is now for GPP. I want to be a fit bastard. The kind of guy you look at and say, "Damn, he could kick my ass".

To accomplish this 52 pound weight loss (I'm hoping to get down to about 195 or so for my next goal...I need to get a BF% test to see what I can healthily get to), I cut out refined sugars from my diet, no white breads/rice, ate more frequently but less in quantity, incooperated increased amounts of cardio workouts, and just paid attention to what I was doing.

I can honestly say that I am still uncomfortable with my appearance. I know that my cardio sucks. I want to be skinnier, more toned, better cardio, and strong. These are things that I need to work on. I feel guilty when I eat a cookie or something like that (In fact, I had two today at lunch). For now, I will stick with what has been working for me: Pay attention to my diet, workout, and enjoy it.

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Old 12-13-2005, 08:44 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I will admit that i probably don't get enough sleep. But even when I do, and I make it a point to get plenty of sleep, i am still tired before 4:00 PM, even if i woke up refreshed. My diet is pretty simple. I eat either cereal, eggwhites, or oatmeal for breakfast, and for the other meals I eat either chicken breast, turkey, or subway, and sometimes eggs. I also eat fruit with at least 1 meal. and I drink a lot of water. I usually eat 1 cheat meal a week. I've had so many people ask me if I feel better now that I eat good, and i honestly can't say i feel different, not even a little bit. I went to the doctor about being tired all the time, and he said he couldn't find anything initially wrong with me and that I would need to go to a sleep specialist and have them perform sleep tests on him, but with college and work i haven't had time to do any of that shit. I'm nt currently taking a multivitamin though, do you think that could be the problem.
Your problem is very simple, you don't eat enough leafy green vegetables. And this is something that is all too common I'm seeing throughout these threads. Out of everything you listed two things are missing which you should have at every large meal and along with some of the in-betweens. One is nutritional fats, the second is leafy greens. The carbs you eat are actually assimilated kind of slowly, so the greens would benefit you because they assimilate rapidly by comparison and they'd fuel you good along with your whole grains. There's a reason most Pro Athletes who know anything about something eat like 2 frackin' heads of lettuce a day. Spinach, Broccoli, Collards, Kale, eat them up.

You might also be insulin sensitive.

Get a high potentcy Multi like the Ultra Mega Green from GNC and use the maximum dosage. If you're not taking one you're liable to be heavily depleted of basic vitamins and minerals, ESPECIALLY being that you're here in America.

In terms of the two proteins you listed I'd use the whey mixed with water pre-workout and the muscle milk post.
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Old 03-01-2006, 08:01 PM   #19 (permalink)

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water is another BIG one too, if i drink a lot of water in a day i feel more energetic. and alive.
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Old 03-01-2006, 08:59 PM   #20 (permalink)
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My wrestling season just ended, I'm back to eating like a "normal" person (and then some...) and I feel like shit! Going back to healthy food is hard, the tuna and fat free cottage cheese that I grew to love in my past 8 months of almost flawless eating habits taste like crap again. Meals never feel complete without some sort of desert. It's becoming more of a habit to eat fewer large meals and not feeling like eating more smaller ones.

My last cut brought me down to 140 lbs, 6.8% body fat (I'm 5'11") a week and a half ago, and I'm already up to around 158 lbs.

But damn, it sure as hell tastes good =)
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