[King Kabuki]

Alright kids, leave us keep the positive energy flowing with sharing what conclusions we've drawn at this stage now that many of us have cleaned up our eating as much as humanly possible. Bits and pieces of this information is scattered throughout the Forum, but here's where we can all bask in the success of not being retarded as far as eating regimens are concerned and share in what we've learned.

No singing of "Kumbaya" though.

I'll go first:

I can honestly look back and say that in my younger days despite having trained much more than most of my peers the ONE thing I was totally fucked up on is eating and supplementing. I never knew how much of a difference it could make not just in-terms of athleticism and things you think come naturally with being strong (like endurance and durability), but also in-terms of just general health and feeling more alive every single day.

It's wierd but I feel both younger and older at the same time. Older because I'm turning 27, younger because I've never been in such good physical condition at a lean 165lbs and moving down to 154 to Box Pro. It's strange when people look at me and say "you're thin" or "you must work out a lot"...because here I am a guy who was 180lbs when he was 12 years-old (I have the stretch marks to prove it).

Not to mention that you get more attention whether wanted or un-wanted on a primal level. Meaning more of the opposite sex are interested in you and more of the same sex are intimidated by you. It's pretty hilarious actually watching younger guys who should by all rights be stronger and more assertive than me think two or even three times before acting the fool. It gives a person a sense of confidence they should naturally have. Not cockyness because being mature means being aware you could get fucked up at any moment, but confident because you know what you're capable of if given the opportunity. I never knew until now that you could attain that kind of confidence from fueling your body correctly so that you almost never get tired.

Then there's the achievements in your training. I hit the 7 mile mark in my running this past week and yesterday did 7.25. When I was a kid, young and full of energy, I could BARELY handle a mile without possibly needing to be air-lifted to the nearest trauma center. When people genuinely ask about my training and I answer, and they hear I do the 7 miles, then do a 2 hour workout, then get cleaned up and go to work, and still have energy after work it boggles their minds. Oddly enough most of them are every bit as capable, they just have too much chaos in-general about them to see it.

I mentioned this before but I've literally not had a cold in about 4 years, possibly more. The LAST time I remember being sick was right when I started working for GNC and it lasted maybe a day or two tops. I've had small immune-system issues that just come with the amount of training I have to do, but I almost never get a cold or Flu even being around it because of my job.

It's strange, but I don't even miss junk food anymore. Imagine the utter confusion on the faces of people who work at restaurants as I routinely say "no sauce on that please"..."wheat please"..."no mayo, thank you"..."no cheese"..."just the sandwich, no fries or soda, thanks"..."I'd like the salad, and do you have bottled water?" You look around and you see crazy decadence everywhere and it's actually kind of sad. And now you have a taste for REAL food (for those of you in America, where real food is VERY rare). You find yourself suddenly interested in how things are made, what affects quality of food has on human Health, looking for what to intake and what to reject and swear-off altogether, or at least cut down to a BARE minimum. I can't bring myself to eat more than a half a slice of cake anymore, or more than 3 cookies.

All-in-all I can honestly say that attempting to make my eating and supplementing regimen more systematic and sensible for my goals, as well as consistent, has made a WORLD of difference in my life in-general. When I turned 25 I kind of dreaded age because somehow we've become convinced that with aging you simply break-down and completely deteriorate and are not capable of vigor, resilience, strength, speed, all the things we wish to have. That's a crock of shit. I've met 60-something year-old men who can move as fast as me. A 94 year-old man who RIDES A BIKE to my store once per month or so. An 87 year-old man who still powerlifts and workouts twice per day. No gimmicks, no tricks, no magical this or that. Just hard-work, discipline, and fueling the machine that is your body properly.

How about you folks?

[Chad Hamilton]

Right on KK.

Although I can finish an entire 8 x 8 pan of Duncan Hines Deluxe Brownie Mix in one sitting without feeling a bit of guilt because......

I burn those 9000 calories in my sleep.

[King Kabuki]

Although I can finish an entire 8 x 8 pan of Duncan Hines Deluxe Brownie Mix in one sitting without feeling a bit of guilt because......

I burn those 9000 calories in my sleep.

Leave it to you to bring up one point I wanted to make and forgot to, by pure chance no less. lol And who says you're a wierd spiritual kook? Not I.

Even though my distaste for junk food is pretty prominent I find I can eat a ton more now than I used to be able to. I swear. I'll eat a whole meal that's nutritous and healthy and my body STARVES for more in a couple of hours. Kind of like a high-performance engine running on high-grade fuel. It runs like the dickens but you need to feed that sumbitch.

I ate dinner tonight and was already exploring for more food within 15 minutes. lol

[UbetterTAPout]

Originally Posted by Chad Hamilton

Right on KK.

Although I can finish an entire 8 x 8 pan of Duncan Hines Deluxe Brownie Mix in one sitting without feeling a bit of guilt because......

I burn those 9000 calories in my sleep.

I wish I were that lucky!! I gain 5 lbs just reading the box. But, KK, I am just now changing my ways. I had a life threatening ilness that was killing me(marriage), but now that i'm thru with that, I am trying to get back to the shape i was in after bootcamp. i need to lose 40 lbs and then maintain, so I read all of this with great interest.

[Urban]

While I'm still inconsistent with meal frequency, I have found that cutting back on refined flours and sugars has benefited my overall well being and energy levels tremendously. and to piggyback on what you said kabuki, I can't stand to eat much cake or many cookies any more. you can taste and feel how unnatural it is. I'm still learning but as if figure things out my performance does nothing but improve. Diet and supplements are, however, for the most part a large mystery to me. how I eat:
- Each meal should include fiber, and protein
- carbs should come from colorful sources
- eggs are good for you, eat more of them (I top out at around 6 a day)
- don't skip breakfast.
- foods you can eat: meat, dairy, eggs, fruits, vegies, nuts and limited grains.

Amazing how your tastes, cravings, and performance changes after breaking down to the basics.

[Amy Robinson]

Originally Posted by King Kabuki

Alright kids, leave us keep the positive energy flowing with sharing what conclusions we've drawn at this stage now that many of us have cleaned up our eating as much as humanly possible. Bits and pieces of this information is scattered throughout the Forum, but here's where we can all bask in the success of not being retarded as far as eating regimens are concerned and share in what we've learned.

No singing of "Kumbaya" though.

I'll go first:

I can honestly look back and say that in my younger days despite having trained much more than most of my peers the ONE thing I was totally fucked up on is eating and supplementing. I never knew how much of a difference it could make not just in-terms of athleticism and things you think come naturally with being strong (like endurance and durability), but also in-terms of just general health and feeling more alive every single day.

It's wierd but I feel both younger and older at the same time. Older because I'm turning 27, younger because I've never been in such good physical condition at a lean 165lbs and moving down to 154 to Box Pro. It's strange when people look at me and say "you're thin" or "you must work out a lot"...because here I am a guy who was 180lbs when he was 12 years-old (I have the stretch marks to prove it).

Not to mention that you get more attention whether wanted or un-wanted on a primal level. Meaning more of the opposite sex are interested in you and more of the same sex are intimidated by you. It's pretty hilarious actually watching younger guys who should by all rights be stronger and more assertive than me think two or even three times before acting the fool. It gives a person a sense of confidence they should naturally have. Not cockyness because being mature means being aware you could get fucked up at any moment, but confident because you know what you're capable of if given the opportunity. I never knew until now that you could attain that kind of confidence from fueling your body correctly so that you almost never get tired.

Then there's the achievements in your training. I hit the 7 mile mark in my running this past week and yesterday did 7.25. When I was a kid, young and full of energy, I could BARELY handle a mile without possibly needing to be air-lifted to the nearest trauma center. When people genuinely ask about my training and I answer, and they hear I do the 7 miles, then do a 2 hour workout, then get cleaned up and go to work, and still have energy after work it boggles their minds. Oddly enough most of them are every bit as capable, they just have too much chaos in-general about them to see it.

I mentioned this before but I've literally not had a cold in about 4 years, possibly more. The LAST time I remember being sick was right when I started working for GNC and it lasted maybe a day or two tops. I've had small immune-system issues that just come with the amount of training I have to do, but I almost never get a cold or Flu even being around it because of my job.

It's strange, but I don't even miss junk food anymore. Imagine the utter confusion on the faces of people who work at restaurants as I routinely say "no sauce on that please"..."wheat please"..."no mayo, thank you"..."no cheese"..."just the sandwich, no fries or soda, thanks"..."I'd like the salad, and do you have bottled water?" You look around and you see crazy decadence everywhere and it's actually kind of sad. And now you have a taste for REAL food (for those of you in America, where real food is VERY rare). You find yourself suddenly interested in how things are made, what affects quality of food has on human Health, looking for what to intake and what to reject and swear-off altogether, or at least cut down to a BARE minimum. I can't bring myself to eat more than a half a slice of cake anymore, or more than 3 cookies.

All-in-all I can honestly say that attempting to make my eating and supplementing regimen more systematic and sensible for my goals, as well as consistent, has made a WORLD of difference in my life in-general. When I turned 25 I kind of dreaded age because somehow we've become convinced that with aging you simply break-down and completely deteriorate and are not capable of vigor, resilience, strength, speed, all the things we wish to have. That's a crock of shit. I've met 60-something year-old men who can move as fast as me. A 94 year-old man who RIDES A BIKE to my store once per month or so. An 87 year-old man who still powerlifts and workouts twice per day. No gimmicks, no tricks, no magical this or that. Just hard-work, discipline, and fueling the machine that is your body properly.

How about you folks?

tl/dr.... jk ; )

I feel much better when I eat cleaner, which isn't all the time, as right now, for example, with the holidays, mom's always in the kitchen making sweet, yet not particularly healthy stuff. Although at certain times I may splurge on a cookie or chocolate, my main core meal diet is all pretty healthy stuff. (Although, I've found it hard to stay away from stuff like mayo and dressing, but when I do eat those things its always the low-fat kinds.) However, since I've been eating healthier, I've also found myself alittle grossed out by junk food, like chips and fast food, so the desire for those types of things isn't really a probelm. And another plus about eating healthy, is I have yet to get a cold this season. I actually felt one coming on a few weeks back and stepped up my vitamin c and fluid intake and avoided it, which was awesome. Also I think water is a huge factor in staying healthy, its pretty much the only thing I drink(with the occasional diet soda, iced tea, or yoo-hoo splurge) but I average about 6-10 bottles a day, and I really believe it makes a differance.

[Soid]

Thnaks to this forum I've been eating healthier. I make sure that the only thing I drink is water. When eating sandwhiches I ask for whole wheat bread, chicken breast, lettuce, cheese and vinegar. For the past two years I've been eating 3-4 slices of pizza. I was 165 2 years ago, this summer I was 160 and I'm 17. Now that I've started eating healthy. I'm 170 and eating healthier. Oatmeal, multivits/banana in the morning. Sandwhich for lunch, and maybe some oat cereal for dinner. I'm trying my best, and I can feel the difference in my day now. I feel more energized in the morning and overall very healthy. My only problem is sleeping because the only time I happen to read is at night. I gotta thank King Kabuki who helped me realize how healthy we have to be.

[cfiore6006]

Originally Posted by UbetterTAPout

I wish I were that lucky!! I gain 5 lbs just reading the box. But, KK, I am just now changing my ways. I had a life threatening ilness that was killing me(marriage), but now that i'm thru with that, I am trying to get back to the shape i was in after bootcamp. i need to lose 40 lbs and then maintain, so I read all of this with great interest.

Nothing will turn you into a fat fuck like being active duty military. Barring strange and wonderful places like the infantry, physical fitness is a fucking joke, and eating in the mess hall will kill you immediately. Anyone in the Army who wants to stay in shape best work out on their own after duty hours, and avoid the daily entrees like the plague.

As for marriage, there's nothing that can help that. You made your bed, now lie in it.

[King Kabuki]

As for marriage, there's nothing that can help that. You made your bed, now lie in it.

Well he did say he's through with it. But your entry about the military just reminded me of something I wanted to put in the supplement wars thread.

[desertbake]

My eating routine is still in the evolutionary phase but I have never felt better in my life. I say evolutionary phase cause 4 months ago I was eating like shit 4x a day, now I eat like shit 1x every other day.

It's amazing, when I was always eating like shit I literally had zero energy and a 30min workout would be all I could handle before I was feeling dizzy and seeing stars. Now a 30min workout is a warmup!

Also, thanks to all the posters on this board for helping me to enhance my better diet. A few months ago I would have never been able to say that I'm honenstly craving some brocoli and plain chicken breast!