[GotBanned?]

Originally Posted by Urban

hey Madmick, what kinda flavor should I get from true protein with this? Any reccomendations?

Cant go wrong with BSL Chocolate, once you taste that youll never go back.

I personally just order a few Tubs of Ion Exchange Isolate Protein, BSL Chocolate and Sometimes Mix it with Orage to make Jaffa.

I buy my own dextrose from the Suppermarket which is dirt cheap.
A tub of Creatine and Glutamine from 1fast400 (sometimes BCAAS)

And your set.

I personally dont know the point in taking hydrolysed Casein for post workout. You need a rapid absorbing protein like WPI. And if your a hard gainer it would be far more benefical just to eat healthy bulking ratios.

I know one of the owners of True Protein Dante recommends WPI for post workout with dextrose (he's a 280+ pound monster that started life as an extremely hard gainer)

[Madmick]

Isolates are acceptable. Hydrolysates are better.

Hydrolysates are partially digested proteins. They've even faster absorbing than isolates.

But any whey will do. It's the guys who get into the gym who gain.

[Madmick]

I think Dante came in here once, BTW.

[GotBanned?]

Originally Posted by Madmick

Isolates are acceptable. Hydrolysates are better.

Hydrolysates are partially digested proteins. They've even faster absorbing than isolates.

But any whey will do. It's the guys who get into the gym who gain.

My bad your right Hydroslyates are fast absorbing but Casein products are generally Slow Absorbing,

I would personally stick to the isolate though, the taste is unbeatable and when your downing a shake before and after weight training, and before and after BJJ and Muay Thai it helps greatly when you like the taste.

[Fight_Song]

This is good stuff.

One thing, do you mix it all and throw it in an old tub or do you measure and mix it everytime post workout? Measuring every time you throw a PWO shake is a bit of a pain, but if you just throw it all in the tub, it's hard to be accurate that what you scoop is your desired ratio with a perfect 5g creatine and etc per serving.

You could pre-measure for accuracy and hold your weekly store in single serving containers to safe a bit of time while being accurate.

[Urban]

are all dextrose products equal? Cause NOW dextrose costs less than half as much as dextrose through true protein. I was thinking about buying it from somebody separate and mixing it myself. 5 bucks is 5 bucks.

I guess my next question is are all Creatine Monohydrate, Branched Chain Amino Acids L-Glutamine or Glutamine Peptides, & Taurine created equal... respectively. Cause if I can find them cheaper I may just get the straight up hydrosylized protein and flavoring through T.P.

[BangWhosNxt]

Originally Posted by Fight_Song

This is good stuff.

One thing, do you mix it all and throw it in an old tub or do you measure and mix it everytime post workout? Measuring every time you throw a PWO shake is a bit of a pain, but if you just throw it all in the tub, it's hard to be accurate that what you scoop is your desired ratio with a perfect 5g creatine and etc per serving.

You could pre-measure for accuracy and hold your weekly store in single serving containers to safe a bit of time while being accurate.

When I mixed up mine, I did it all at once. Makes life easier.

I think as long as you have your ratios measured out you should be fine. I started out with 2lbs. of whey and 4lbs of dextrose. Mixed it little by little, luckily I had a big ass tub and would just pour little amounts of both and shake the shit out of it, pour a little more, shake a little more until it was all gone.

It does a great job.

[BangWhosNxt]

Originally Posted by Urban

are all dextrose products equal? Cause NOW dextrose costs less than half as much as dextrose through true protein. I was thinking about buying it from somebody separate and mixing it myself. 5 bucks is 5 bucks.

I guess my next question is are all Creatine Monohydrate, Branched Chain Amino Acids L-Glutamine or Glutamine Peptides, & Taurine created equal... respectively. Cause if I can find them cheaper I may just get the straight up hydrosylized protein and flavoring through T.P.

This is a good question and am very curious myself. Although I'm pretty sure that all creatine monohydrates are not created equal. I'll leave this alone though for mick to answer.

[Madmick]

Gotbanned: yes, caseins are slow-digesting, except hydrolyzed casein. That's why I recommend it. You can trust me, I'm on top of it.

Urban, I don't think anything is equal. Bottom line: I don't know. That's something I want to know more about. The manufacturing process and comparative stability of products. But I assume you get what you pay for, except with stuff like dextrose. That shit's made from corn- it's all the same. NOW dextrose has worked for me.

As for BCAA's, I only recommend the slight addition because the 3 BCAA's happen to also be 3 of the 8 EAA's, and that's where it's at. Research indicates that Essential Amino Acids are the limiting factor in turning over a positive nitrogen balance (this is straight from the UT Medical Branch). So if you're willing to go the distance, I'd recommend you got an EAA powder separately.

I think you should be able to get equal or perhaps even superior versions of those additional supps elsewhere. I just did it all at TP because it's more convenient. Guys don't have to buy from separate stores (paying separate shipping charges on separate orders), and they don't have to fiddle with the powders trying to figure out proper ratios.

[Madmick]

Also, Urban, if you didn't see it (I think it was in another thread), ALA > Taurine as an insulin potentiator. WAY BETTER. But Taurine is cheap as shit (like $0.03/day), so I use both.

So if you make a separate order, get R-ALA (200mg/day) or ALA (600-800mg/day).