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Old 03-14-2008, 11:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Wolf A, Bray GA, Popkin BM.
A short history of beverages and how our body treats them. Obes Rev. 2008 Mar;9(2):151-64.

Numerous studies have demonstrated that beverages containing sugar, high fructose corn syrup (HFCS) or alcohol are handled differently by the body than when sugar or HFCS are incorporated in solid foods and as a result the overall caloric intake from solid food does not adjust to account for the calories in these beverages. A consideration of our evolutionary history may help to explain our poor compensatory response to calories from fluids. This paper reviews the history of eight important beverages: milk, beer, wine, tea, coffee, distilled alcoholic beverages, juice and soft drinks. We arrive at two hypotheses. First, humans may lack a physiological basis for processing carbohydrate or alcoholic calories in beverage because only breast milk and water were available for the vast majority of our evolutionary history. Alternatives to those two beverages appeared in the human diet no more than 11 000 years ago, but Homo sapiens evolved between 100 000 and 200 000 years ago. Second, carbohydrate and alcohol-containing beverages may produce an incomplete satiation sequence which prevents us from becoming satiated on these beverages.

I'd like to see this whole study; it could be interesting to see where hormonally neutral and calorically empty drinks like coffee sit.

Fuck, I'm on vacation and I'm still posting and filling the minds of D&S regulars with interesting shit. Look at me go. By the way, it was 75 and sunny here in Palm Springs today, and I drank enough vino from the Temecula Valley region to even make an alcoholic proud.
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Interesting...First, I never thought about the difference between HFCS consumed in a liquid v. a soild. Second, was breast milk available to all ages?
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I heard breast milk is the most anabolic food. If I were an athlete, I would pay some chick to make breast milk, like that one chick from shoot em up.
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ive always found changing the fluids i take in had a major change in my weight, opposed to the food i ate.

then again going from pop to water over steak to chiken is kinda self explanitory.
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Interesting...First, I never thought about the difference between HFCS consumed in a liquid v. a soild. Second, was breast milk available to all ages?
Same here. Interesting stuff Mike, thanks.
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Interesting indeed.
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I've read that the closest thing to mother's breast milk is mare's milk. That may be good to try if you can find it.
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Same here. Interesting stuff Mike, thanks.
I third this, tho after thinking about it, it becomes pretty obvious. I could pretty easily drink 600 calories worth of soda back in the day and not feel "full" in ANY way, just maybe a bit water logged.
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