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10-22-2007, 11:33 AM
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Fine tuning (long read)
Please critique my plan. I have read through the faq’s and want to fine tune my plan. I currently am taking fish oil, a joint supp (chondro something.) and a multi. I drink 1-1/2 gallons of water a day. I am following PN 80-90 percent (the diet above is what I am doing besides the meal replacement.) Other than taking protein a handful of times I am an idiot to supplements besides what I have read here.
I have a couple concerns about my plan. On Mondays bjj is early so it screws up dinner. I assume a meal replacement shake from PN will do. My other question with bjj would a carb/protein drink be recommended during and after?
I don’t have a breakdown for my pre workout drink because I am still working on that.
Other than that, hack away and let me know what I can do to improve my plan. Thanks in advance.
Monday
5:00 am Wakeup
5:15 am Pre workout drink w/ greens+
5:30-6:30 cardio/weights
6:30 post workout drink. Carbs/Protein 4:1. 5g creatine, 5g BCAA
7:00 Breakfast: 1 cup egg whites, 1 omega 3 egg, 1 cup mushrooms and spinach, 3 fish oil pills, 1 multi,
1 joint pill.
9:30 4-6 oz lean protein, 1 cup vegetables
12:00 Anytime Gourmet Nutrition meal (PN), 3 fish oil, 1 multi, 1 joint pill
3:00 4-6 oz lean protein, 1 cup vegetables
5:00 Meal replacement shake
5:30-8:30 BJJ
9:30 1 cup cottage cheese, ZMA
Tuesday
5:00 wake up
5:30-6:30 swim
7:00-3:00 same as Monday (except I will take greens+ at breakfast.)
6:00 GN dinner
9:30 1 cup cottage cheese, ZMA
Wednesday
5:00-3:00 same as Monday
5:00 GN meal
6:30-8:30 BJJ
9:30pm 1 cup cottage cheese, ZMA
Thursday
5:00-3:00 same as Tuesday
5:00 GN meal
6:30-7:30 kickboxing
7:30-9:30 BJJ
10:00 1 cup cottage cheese, ZMA
Friday
5:00-3:00 same as Monday
6:00-9:30 same as Tuesday
Saturday
7:00 breakfast same as above
10:00 snack same as above
10:30-12:30 BJJ
1:30 GN lunch 3 fish oil, 1 multi, 1 joint pill
3:30 snack same as above
6:00 GN dinner
9:00 1 cup cottage cheese, ZMA
Sunday
No training
6 meals 2-3 hrs apart
Greens+ with breakfast
2 multi, 6 fish oil and 2 joint pills
Thanks for any help.
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10-22-2007, 11:48 AM
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Anytime you can get whole foods instead of shakes you should fr meals (pre and post workout, shakes can be better), so the meal replacement shakes aren't the best, so if you can pack protein+veggies, you should. Also, I don't know enough about the GN anytime meals. Anyone else know how good these are?
Overall, your diet looks pretty solid.
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10-22-2007, 11:55 AM
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I prefer the whole meals, figured the shakes might be better right before bjj. If not, I can just eat a meal an hour earlier.
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10-22-2007, 12:19 PM
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food for thought
Q: I want to start using a "greens" product to help with muscular acidosis. Which do you recommend?
A: I can't recommend any of them, and furthermore, I probably owe everybody an apology for helping promote Greens + over the years.
I mean, I'm supposed to know what I'm talking about, but here I was telling people to use this anachronistic product. Has anybody aside from me even looked at the ingredients of this stuff? It's like 1960's era tree bark munchers developed it.
Never mind that it contains bilberry and licorice root — both known to shrink Testosterone levels — but aside from seaweed and lecithin, the main ingredients are mostly grasses, which constitute most of the food allergies experienced by man.
Oh yeah, it also has bee pollen, nature's "most perfect food."
Horseshit.
And most of the alleged magic properties of the product are supposedly because of the high amounts of chlorophyll it contains. More horseshit.
Most of the research on chlorophyll was conducted before antibiotics were available. True, chlorophyll kills certain types of bacteria, but it also promotes the growth of others. Regardless, you'd need very large amounts to actually have any effect on bacteria.
Of course, a lot of people use Greens + because it combats something called ****bolic acidosis.
Supposedly, people who follow a typical Western diet are persistently in this state of acidosis and that it will worsen with age and normal renal decline, the end result being osteoporosis, muscle wasting, kidney stones, hypertension, asthma, etc.
Most of the research supporting this idea comes from a nephrologist by the name of Anthony Sebastian at UCSF medical school. The cure for ****bolic acidosis is presumably to eat a lot more fruits and vegetables, and many of those who've accepted Sebastian's theories have turned to Greens +.
However, 99% of nephrologists will tell you the kidneys have a huge capacity for acid excretion and base retention and that it's only sickos with kidney disease who have to worry about these things. In fact, according to most of them, there's no way you can eat yourself into acidity if your kidney function is anywhere near 25% of normal.
That being said, there's no way I'm going to say it isn't a good idea to eat more fruits and vegetables. In fact it's a great idea. I'm only saying that Greens + sucks.
Hopefully, Biotest can come up with a suitable, infinitely more beneficial, "greens" supplement.
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10-23-2007, 12:28 AM
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Thanks. Do Broccoli, Asparagus and Brussel Sprouts count as complex carbs, those are majority of the vegetables I eat. (I thought I read they are.) There are also complex carbs with the GN meals, I would have to look at the breakdown. Any more advice would be appreciated.
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