maltodextrin question

ninjajesus · 03-15-2008, 12:38 PM

For my weight I'm supposed to consume 150 grams of carbs after a workout. That's a lot of maltodextrin. It's 1 and a half cups. That's a lot of shit to put in a drink. If I did that, I'd use up this 2 pound container in 6 drinks. I just bought it. Do I really need that much? 1 and a half cups of sugar is a lot to just pour down your throat. I probably won't even taste the chocolate from my protein if I used that much.

PS, this stuff is messy too. Just scooping it, it poofs up out of the container since it's so fine and dry. And if it touches anything that has at least 1 molecule of water on it, it becomes the stickiest substance known to man.

theNuge · 03-15-2008, 01:22 PM

I hear where you're coming from. I'm supposed to take a ridiculous amount of crap after my workouts too and I can't get myself to do it. I've tried it and I can't tell that much difference from when I only take two scoops or approximately 60 grams of protein and carbs. One of the other reasons I do this is because I don't have the money to replace my PWO drink that often.

However, about a half hour after I take my PWO shake I do eat quite a bit as well. This gets me the extra carbs and protein and I save a little money.

joshetc · 03-16-2008, 02:51 PM

You weigh over 410lbs? The general rule is 0.8g/kg of carbs post-workout. You would need to weigh ~412lbs to require that much.

Fight_Song · 03-16-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by joshetc

The general rule is 0.8g/kg of carbs post-workout.

From where are you sourcing this?

I only do a during-workout (DWO) shake, and whatever I didn't finish goes for PWO before my PWO meal. I do get a little mixed up though.

For my DWO, I just do: (from a Berardi article on basic peri-WO nutrition)

15g protein
15g dextrose
15g maltodextrin
..multiply by the # of hours working out

and add my creatine/BA for the day (half before, half during).

Do I need to be taking a true PWO after or does my DWO cover all this, plus my PWO meal?

joshetc · 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fight_Song

From where are you sourcing this?

I only do a during-workout (DWO) shake, and whatever I didn't finish goes for PWO before my PWO meal. I do get a little mixed up though.

For my DWO, I just do: (from a Berardi article on basic peri-WO nutrition)

15g protein
15g dextrose
15g maltodextrin
..multiply by the # of hours working out

and add my creatine/BA for the day (half before, half during).

Do I need to be taking a true PWO after or does my DWO cover all this, plus my PWO meal?

Sorry, I should of been more specific. For PWO shakes that require carbs and protein (optimum insulin spike for optimum protein uptake) the rule of thumb is 0.8g/kg. I've seen it in a few articals regarding such shakes, but don't have them on-hand. I believe MM referenced the same rule a couple days ago in a thread, too. I'll look for it.

Also, that is exactly what I do peri-workout.

edit: when to take whey

edit2: Even better, Berardi discusses carbs and protein post workout. His conclusion is ~0.8g/kg of carbs and ~0.4g/kg of protein post workout. http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...importance.htm He begins discussing it in the "Feeding hungry muscles" section.

ninjajesus · 03-16-2008, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by joshetc

You weigh over 410lbs? The general rule is 0.8g/kg of carbs post-workout. You would need to weigh ~412lbs to require that much.

Oh, well that makes more sense. I need 68 grams of carbs based on that. Which to me is still a lot, but it's not ridiculous. I got the other calculation from another website, I just tried to find it and couldn't. I thought it was Berardi's website but I could be wrong.

Ian Coe · 03-16-2008, 04:51 PM

I was going to say 150g of carbs in a drink is A LOT

T_Money_ · 03-16-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by joshetc

You weigh over 410lbs? The general rule is 0.8g/kg of carbs post-workout. You would need to weigh ~412lbs to require that much.

Good job on the math. There was no way 150g was right. Hell 150 cals from sugar would be a pretty decent amount.

joshetc · 03-16-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjajesus

Oh, well that makes more sense. I need 68 grams of carbs based on that. Which to me is still a lot, but it's not ridiculous. I got the other calculation from another website, I just tried to find it and couldn't. I thought it was Berardi's website but I could be wrong.

That sounds much better, I use about 60g of carbs and 30g of protein in my post workout shakes. It takes about 12oz of water to mix it according to my taste, which takes like 10 seconds to guzzle down.

ninjajesus · 03-16-2008, 06:28 PM

Ah here we go. This is the website I got it from. Different website than I thought. I did a Google search to find it.
I think I'm the one who got it wrong. I think I was supposed to divide something. But what's the use of a calculator if I have to do calculating manually?

edit: or maybe there is no extra calculating. His example of 10lb of body fat and 145 pound weight gives him 122 grams of carbs he needs to consume after a workout.

Anyway, here's the link.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/pierce2.htm